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6. Deb says:
March 6, 2010 at 12:16 am
The good news is that the trend of younger workers working longer hours is no longer true. In the past 5 years, I worked with many 25 and under and all left promptly at 5, and rarely ever worked more than 40 hours. All took lunch, most took 1.5 hour lunches to “work-out” and eat. For some roles, though weekend work was encouraged, rarely did the 25 yr olds rise to the occassion. I have found this true and accurate in just about every industry, even healthcare, which brings scary thoughts that I will leave to another blog.
Though I am not quite 50, I had no problem working 50-60 hours a week, and made my co-workers productivity/performance look poor. I also did community work, which generally added another 20-30 hours a week.
I do agree that knowing this information is certainly helpful.
One issue that I wish was discussed in more detail was pay, which I believe (and have heard some feedback on) is at the bottom of the pyramid that was built for “reasons”, and then added to the top of the pyramid with “can an employee be happy with a 30-40% cut in pay?”
Proof is in performance. That’s all anyone can do to change this self-fulfilling prophecy and continued urban legend.
7. Recruiting Animal says:
March 8, 2010 at 10:03 am
Re: senior workers applying for more junior jobs.
Most of the time, nobody wants to take a step backwards.
You’ll probably be working for less money. You might be doing work that is less challenging. And you might have to follow instead of lead.
The employer knows that.
I’m working on a plant manager’s role right now. The company hired someone who had been a VP Manufacturing.
I’m sure he told them that he would be very happy in a lesser job. But he wasn’t there a month before something better came around that he couldn’t refuse.
How can you beat the accusation that you’re not going to be happy and leave unless you offer to sign a contract which probably can’t be enforced.
8. admin says:
March 8, 2010 at 3:37 pm
@animal Your point is valid. I don’t deny it is true in some cases.
My clients and ‘target market’ are technology executives. The issue about leaving a job for something better isn’t that common. There is no more chance someone a bit under employed will leave than for those who are level appropriate. One thing that tends to be true in tech companies is that people rarely change jobs just for money.
It is about recognition, respect, ability to succeed and a host of other things. The extend to which a company treats all employees well is the extent to which any employee is likely to stay or leave.
Another factor is sometimes, not often, a senior employee WANTS to step back. Many reason for that, but it happens more than one would think.
Rita Ashley, Career and Job Search Coach
9. Recruiting Animal says:
March 8, 2010 at 3:47 pm
Common sense suggests that younger employees with young families wd need more time off than middle aged employees whose children are grown.
That’s the opposite of what was said here. Are the young people who work long hours single or without children? Or is that everybody?
10. admin says:
March 8, 2010 at 4:00 pm
Common sense? The technology industry was founded on the 70 hour work week and anyone engaged in the industry knows it, accepts it. Few companies expect less than a 50 hour work week an most tend towards 60. The more senior the employee, the more hours are expected; sets the right example. Some of the work is home based, some on the road, but long hours are a fact of life, family notwithstanding.
How did that happen? The tech industry was catapulted to success on the backs of very young, very educated men, extremely dedicated men. Men who didn’t have families or if they did, they took a back seat to the raging success they anticipated with stock options, incredible tech advances and just plain camaraderie. Back in the day, it was not uncommon for companies to supply cots for those overnighters (what a message the mere presence sent). Many of those people are now millionaires and that hope continues. Some people, younger in their careers to be sure, keep a sleeping bag in the office to sleep under their desks.
Common sense tells us we cease to be productive after a certain number of hours, yet many senior execs work 65-80 hour days on a regular basis. It may not be common sense, right or even effective, but it is true.
A few years back a bloke asked me how he could find a 40 hour week job so he could attend to his ailing wife. There was nothing for it but to leave high tech.
Individual results may vary, but the standard is the standard, no matter how much we rail against the machine.
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