在gter的网站上看到这么一个帖子，感到有些争议，贴过来给CD的人看看：
http://bbs.gter.net/bbs/showthread.php?s=70525c511fb0c6a21cdaf88fbef9eb3c&threadid=150141&perpage=18&pagenumber=1
findcheater
No.1 我与沃顿招生总监的书信－诚实有多重要？
我在申请过程中发现了一个奇怪的事情，一个去年被我公司开除的人今年进了沃顿，我写信给该校的admission office，下面是真实内容：
Rose的回复2： 11/17/2003
Thanks very much for your continuing concern. After you last wrote, we
conducted an informal investigation. The incident you refer to is actually
noted in her application as well as her recommendations. Thanks for bringing
this to our attention. Warm regards, Rose
我的回复1： 11/14/2003
Ms. Martinelli
It takes me quite a long time to reconsider this issue. After reflecting
the importance of integrity during my essay writing, I think it is part of
my responsibilities to help you uncover the truth.
I have tried to ... but failed to get the useful details for your judgement.
I believed the senior managers will have the right to disclose it in a much
formal way- say answering the request from Wharton Admission Office.
XXX is the current HR director in the XXX company's ‘operations and is the people who handles the integrity issues within company. So I suggest you contact him directly and formally to find more details on XXX’s separation in 2002.
The following is the email address of him and I hope it is helpful for you.
XXXXXXXXX.
Sincerely
Rose的回复1 9/19/2003
>Dear XXX
> >Thanks very much for your e-mail. Ethics and honesty are extremely
important to the laceName w:st="on">WhartonlaceName> laceType w:st="on">SchoollaceType>. As you can imagine, we receive thousands
of applications each year and it is very difficult to determine which
applicants are not telling the truth or are not disclosing facts that would
be helpful to us in the evaluation process. If you know of specific
details regarding the person you list below, we do take this very seriously
and will investigate.
> >This will be one of your most difficult jobs as a leader and manager in
the future. I appreciate your taking the time to write.
Warm regards,
Rose
> >Rosemaria Martinelli
>Director, MBA Admissions & Financial Aid
>The Wharton School
>Tel: 215-898-3423; Fax: 215-898-0120
>rosem@wharton.upenn.edu
><http://www.wharton.upenn.edu/mba> > 我的询问：9/12/2003
> >Dear admission officer of Wharton Business School,
> >I was an applicant the wharton business school last year and was
>thinking to reapply although I failed to get admission. But during my application
>in the past whole year, one thing bothers me a lot.
> >I am working in an international company in China for past 3 years.
Wharton is among the top of my interested school list because of its excellent
>education program, iconic faculty and specific focus in finance feild.
>I am especially impressed by the warm-hearted alumi from whom I was
>motivated and encouraged to apply wharton.I did apply last year but failed. Telling
myself to work hard, I decided to reapply this year.
> >But I was totally confused when I knew that one of my previous
>colleagues- XXX, who was fired by my company one year before due to
>her unfaithful and unforgivable behaviours in dealing with her
>advertising agents - got admission from your school. For some reasons
>unclear to me, XXX was found out to intentionally .... She was terminated by the cheatted company immediately. Company didn't publicly announce it but many of us do know it from .... I know that Wharton will carry out an investigation before it admits the applicants. I have no idea whether wharton overlooks the integrity importance or is just deceived by the applicant.
> >I felt comfortable that I didn't be admitted because of many other brilliant candidates, but I doubt whether XXX is a right people you should choose. Actually,many
>of my colleagues who also want to apply Wharton this year hesitate when
>knowing this case.
> >Although I decided to withdraw my application to wharton(inteadly...), I
>felt obligation to tell you why I make that decision. I really feel sorry to
the Wharton alumni who gave me a lot of encourage and help.
到底诚实有多重要？看到rose的信，我很惊讶：沃顿明知道该学生是由于某种原因（虽然我不清楚到底是什么原因，但很明显是比较严重的事情）被公司开除，但还是招她，这难道不是对他们声称的enthic requirement的直接质疑吗？
我正在申请当中，但我开始怀疑MBA到底能带给我什么教育。
yanjuji
No.2
不客气的说，如果我是沃顿主管，我也不会理睬你的请求。我认为你首先应该检讨自己，检讨自己内心真正的想法。
danjiao23
No.3
再优秀的MBA培养不出一个有优秀的人，如果他本身是那么狭隘。
rackyfx
No.4
你不清楚人家犯了什么错误就去揭发人家，成功了就能代表他的名额给你吗？做什么损人不利己的事情？
中国人虽然有很多人不诚实，但我更痛恨汉奸。
menes
No.5
引用:最初由 rackyfx 发布
你不清楚人家犯了什么错误就去揭发人家，成功了就能代表他的名额给你吗？做什么损人不利己的事情？
中国人虽然有很多人不诚实，但我更痛恨汉奸。
严重同意楼上。
而且楼主并不清楚当时同事辞职的真相，何必胡乱猜疑别人是否在cheat, 况且沃顿已经回复表明申请人并无刻意隐瞒什么。楼主为什么非要将同事（而且还曾经是同事啊！）拉下马而后快呢？！！！
不明白？
奉劝楼主专心申请自己的学校就行了，不要到最后因为一时的臆测影响别人又耽误自己。
goldenbin
最COOL的版主
No.6
你以findcheater的名义在GTER首次发贴就谈到了这样的事情，我可以对你的激动情绪和不爽表示深切的理解，但你这样的做法是否有些过激了呢？正如大家所说，你这样做是损人不利已的。再说，像WHATON这样的牛B-SCHOOL，在审查申请材料中一定是非常仔细再仔细的，人家被录取了也一定有人家的理由和优秀、过人之处。如果你对他的过去的行为和工作成绩有怀疑态度，我建议你应该首先自我检讨，客观的分析情况。盲目的像WHATON的ADMISSION OFFICE打小报告是不可取的。希望你能心平气和的想一想。
还有，以后也欢迎你来B-SCHOOL版参与讨论，但不要以注册马甲的身份，我们GTER欢迎所有SINCERE的申友。
eduapplicant
No.7 好龌龊
阴暗的心理。。。楼主扪心自问，你给人家招生总监写信的目的是什么呢？
一句话：劣根性在作祟，见不得别人比自己好，以为自己是根葱。
yjjy2004
No.8
to 楼主:
看了你的文章后,我的感觉是两个字"小人",你对那个女同事被fire的内部原因了解多少,就一口要定人家是cheating,而且这和申请Warton好像没有太直接的联系吧,更何况孰能无过,就算她有错,但是应该给人改过的机会嘛,她能够被Warton垂青足可见她的优秀.而你所谓的"finding cheating"的话,只让人感到你之所以这么做,是你内心不平衡发泄,就是看不得别人比自己好.另外,楼主你给我的感觉像是要通过所谓"揭发人家的短"来为自己增加申请筹码,说实话很痛恨这种人的,你有没有想过对人家会造成多大的伤害.还让人家外国人看我们自己的笑话.这不由得让我想起去年ETS在国内取消机考的事,也是中国学生自己揭短,给后人造成了多大的影响啊!
说了那么多楼主不爱听的话,真的,楼主你要内省一下自己做这件事的真正动机!
whitney
No.9
是这样么？这样不好？
睡美人
No.10
真可耻，人性的卑劣尽显于此，就好像曾几何时在哈佛发生的惨案一样，一个中国博士生不满教授给他的一个中国同胞的评价比他高，因为他觉得自己是最优秀的，他觉得他们都是在cheating，而他这个findcheater于是就伸张正义，买了把抢，将这位在他的研究领域非常知名的教授和他的中国同学都杀死了，然后又用这把枪结束了自己。这件事当时震惊了美国整个学术界。真是可悲可叹。我只希望后来的寄托者们在追求我们前程的同时不要忘了也把自己的精神层面提高提高，以免再给中国人丢人！
红蝎子
No.11
别给中国人丢人了！
红蝎子
No.12
别给中国人丢人了！
bao2bao
No.13
的确很丢人
自己好好申请不就得了
mangostar66
No.14
听所有已经在外国读书的师哥师姐都说在外国只有中国人害中国人，今天可算大开眼界。
什么叫cheating？用一颗别人看来燃烧正义烈火而其实充满嫉妒怒火的心来“路见不平”而“宝剑出鞘”吗？你有没有本事也用你所谓“卑劣”的手段申请到top3的B-School呢？如果这是你所谓的不屑，那么你所崇尚的行为就用你推崇的“暗箭难防”来给别人下一刀吗？好在Wharton的教授不是白痴。
gangsta
No.15
人性丑恶啊！！！！！！！！！
和楼主在一起简直是一种背哀！！！！！！！！
ken0405
No.16
要有原则
老兄.
tuzq
No.17
这本身就说明你不mature,这种揭人秘密的人在什么组织里都是无法存活的。我想Wharton那哥们一定很庆幸没有accept你。
6success
No.19
太惊讶了，这么多人如此一致地攻击楼主。
如果楼主是一位正直的人，眼里容不得一粒沙子，有什么错呢？
如此不粉青红皂白地集体攻击楼主，实在是暴露了很多人自己怙恶不悛的心态，或者自己就正在cheating，怕别人告发。
6success
No.20
下面有一个帖子问：“不知GMAT考试是否也象TOEFL也要现场抄写一段话？当GMAT和TOEFL成绩一起送到学校后，校方是否会对这两个成绩单的笔迹进行鉴定，如果两次的笔迹不一样是否会算做作弊，请各位大侠帮忙解答一下，谢谢”
他为什么问这个问题呢？是不是用了抢手呢？可是还是有什么版主回信，这中怙恶不悛的心态才是中国的悲哀。
6success
No.21
你们现在纵容这种作奸犯科的人，将来迟早要与这些人打交道，迟早要吃这些人的老鼠药的。到时候就明白为什么有人现在这么义愤填膺。
6success
No.22
不过，楼主也很不聪明，招办总监怎么会把事情弄大，证明自己当年的判断是错误的呢？不是自己跟自己过不去吗？ | 
