OG VERBAL SC18

haoyuejayer

18. Except for a concert performance that the composer
himself staged in 1911, Scott Joplin’s ragtime opera
Treemonisha was not produced until 1972, sixty-one
years after its completion.
(A) Except for a concert performance that the
composer himself staged
(B) Except for a concert performance with the
composer himself staging it
(C) Besides a concert performance being staged by
the composer himself
(D) Excepting a concert performance that the
composer himself staged
(E) With the exception of a concert performance
with the staging done by the composer himself
关于这道题有几个地方很纠结。
1 关于besides ,except ,except for 可以互换吗？
2D选项D  og的解释Excepting usually appears in negative
constructions; it is not the correct idiom in
this sentence.这边不太明白。
请求NN解答啊！！

tclzcja

eg:
Bruce answered all the questions excepting the last one--ok
Bruce did not answer any question expecting the last one--here "expecting" is used to perface a positive construction. not ok

haoyuejayer

不好意思，我还是不太明白，可以详细说一下吗？？

huosijie

首先， besides , except , 跟 except for , 三者是不能互換的。

besides 意思如同in addition to ,  是"加" 的概念
She loves many guys besides me. 除了我之外她還愛很多人 (me included )

except 則是"減"的概念.
She loves many guys except me. 她愛很多人，除了我。 ( me excluded )

except for 也是"減" 的概念
但不同於 except ,  except for 是用來排除不同類的事務，而except 是用來排除同類事務。
She loves many guys except me . me 被排除，me 跟many guys 同類，都是人。

She loves me except for my pants.  他愛我，除了我的褲子。 pants 被排除，pants 跟me 不同類，一個是東西一個是人，所以用except for .


excepting 跟except 的不同在於 "有" 或"沒有" 的概念

The man killed all people in the room excepting Tom. (Tom沒有被殺)

The man did not kill any people in the room except Tom.  (Tom有被殺)

總結，a concert performance 跟 Treemonisha 不同類，所以用except for

concert performance 有被 stage 所以不能用 excepting

haoyuejayer

好详细了，太感谢了。不过还想弱弱得问一句，negative construction意思是用在表否定消极意义的场合吗？

soubixl

四楼讲的真详细
但好像Tom的那两个例句except和excepting好像颠倒了吧