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对比OG-77与OG-85,关于ongoing action

77. Though the term “graphic design” may suggest laying out corporate brochures and annual reports, they have come to signify widely ranging work, from package designs and company logotypes to signs, book jackets, computer graphics, and film titles.

(A) suggest laying out corporate brochures and annual reports, they have come to signify widely ranging

(B) suggest laying out corporate brochures and annual reports, it has come to signify a wide range of

(C) suggest corporate brochure and annual report layout, it has signified widely ranging

(D) have suggested corporate brochure and annual report layout, it has signified a wide range of(B)

(E) have suggested laying out corporate brochures and annual reports, they have come to signify widely ranging

Choice A contains an agreement error: the term requires the singular it has in place of the plural they have. Furthermore, widely ranging is imprecise: graphic design work does not range about widely but rather comprises a wide range of activities. Choice C contains widely ranging and, like D, fails to use a verb form such as laying out to define the activities, instead presenting an awkward noun phrase: corporate brochure and annual report layout. The present perfect tense is used inappropriately in choices C (has signified), D (have suggested... has signified and E (have suggested) to indicate recently completed rather than ongoing action. Additionally, E contains the incorrect they have and the imprecise widely ranging. Choice B is best.

这里说have suggested不能表达ongoing action,那也就是说答案B用一般现在时(suggest)可以表达ongoing action

85. Out of America’s fascination with all things antique have grown a market for bygone styles of furniture and fixtures that are bringing back the chaise lounge, the overstuffed sofa, and the claw-footed bathtub.

(A) things antique have grown a market for bygone styles of furniture and fixtures that are bringing

(B) things antique has grown a market for bygone styles of furniture and fixtures that is bringing

(C) things that are antiques has grown a market for bygone styles of furniture and fixtures that bring

(D) antique things have grown a market for bygone styles of furniture and fixtures that are bringing(B)

(E) antique things has grown a market for bygone styles of furniture and fixtures that bring

Choice B is best. In A and D, have grown does not agree with the singular noun market. In addition, all of the choices except B use plural verbs after that, thus illogically stating either that bygone styles of furniture and fixtures, or fixtures alone, are reviving the particular pieces mentioned; it is instead the market for those styles that is bringing back such pieces, as B states. Furthermore, choices C and E, by using the verb form bring, fail to convey the ongoing nature of the revival properly described by the progressive verb is bringing.

这一题又说一般现在时(bring)不能表达ongoing,要用现在进行时。

请问一下大家,如果要表达ongoing的动作或情况应该用哪种时态啊? ETS的解释让我无所适从

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个人理解:

ongoing即有1)目前的,当下的 =present

也有2)进行的

的意思。具体用什么时态(一般现在/现在进行)要以句意为准。

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这里说have suggested不能表达ongoing action,那也就是说答案B用一般现在时(suggest)可以表达ongoing action

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这里说have suggested不能表达ongoing action,那也就是说答案B用一般现在时(suggest)可以表达ongoing action

不能用现在完成时表示ongoing,不代表一定要用“一般现在时”来表示。

个人意见,供参考。

请继续讨论。

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以下是引用xionghuixhs在2008-8-24 15:53:00的发言:

个人理解:

ongoing即有1)目前的,当下的 =present

也有2)进行的

的意思。具体用什么时态(一般现在/现在进行)要以句意为准。

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这里说have suggested不能表达ongoing action,那也就是说答案B用一般现在时(suggest)可以表达ongoing action

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这里说have suggested不能表达ongoing action,那也就是说答案B用一般现在时(suggest)可以表达ongoing action

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这里说have suggested不能表达ongoing action,那也就是说答案B用一般现在时(suggest)可以表达ongoing action

不能用现在完成时表示ongoing,不代表一定要用“一般现在时”来表示。

个人意见,供参考。

请继续讨论。

恩,很有道理哦, 如果上面两题说的ongoing表示的是不同意思,那么就可以解释为什么一个为了表达ongoing用了一般现在时,一个又解释说一般现在时不能表达ongoing了,大家觉得呢?

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首先, 完成时是肯定不可以表示对将来的预期, 这个是区分完成时和现在时的根本之一.

其次, ongoing situation的表达我觉得要么用现在分词, 要么用进行时, 一般现在时我认为是不可以的, 不知道大家有没有反例?

请指正.

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不矛盾.

have suggested完全不可能表达ongoing action, 因此选择(suggest)

相对于一般现在时(bring), is bringing更好地表达了 ongoing action

相对于have suggested(完全不可能表达ongoing action), (suggest)可以表达ongoing action. 选项里没有 is suggesting 可选择. 根据语意来说, 正在suggesting说不通. 所以suggest这个词没有一般现在时这种时态!

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从我目前做OG的经验来看, 语法里的错误选项如果拿不准的, 在99%的情况下, 都不止一个错误. 所以除了拿不准的考点, 注意看其他地方有无错误. 一般都是有的. 所以可以最终有把握地确认. 排除错误选项.

the term 必须是 it, 排除AE 

have suggested完全不可能表达ongoing action, 因此排除 DE

B和C里只能选B

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这个倒装句, 主语a market, 排除 have grown (AD), a market...that... that后面谓语必须是单数 排除A,C,D,E

欢迎大家来语法区交流

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以下是引用MerisaLees在2008-8-25 20:09:00的发言:

首先, 完成时是肯定不可以表示对将来的预期, 这个是区分完成时和现在时的根本之一.

其次, ongoing situation的表达我觉得要么用现在分词, 要么用进行时, 一般现在时我认为是不可以的, 不知道大家有没有反例?

请指正.

但是楼主看看OG77的解释 E (have suggested) to indicate recently completed rather than ongoing action.是不是在说正确答案(suggest)表示的是ongoing action呢?

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和我说的不冲突, 完成时不表示对将来的任何观点, 所以第一题不可以用; 第二题里面要表达正在进行的含意, 进行时更好. 一般现在时总的来说可以表达对未来的观点(区分现在完成时), 但是无法强调现在正在进行(区分进行时).

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以下是引用MerisaLees在2008-8-28 6:57:00的发言:
和我说的不冲突, 完成时不表示对将来的任何观点, 所以第一题不可以用; 第二题里面要表达正在进行的含意, 进行时更好. 一般现在时总的来说可以表达对未来的观点(区分现在完成时), 但是无法强调现在正在进行(区分进行时).

有理有理,下一步在做大全的时候我会仔细注意一下这种区分方法...感谢版主啊...

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