2002 Indiana University
Kelley MBA Admissions Chat
Dec 16, 2002
Jim Holmen, Director of Admissions
Kate Coffman, Associate Director of Admissions
问：当你面对一份申请材料的时候，是按照什么顺序评审的？
答：We obviously look at a great many things in the review of a file. We want to make sure that each candidate has the potential to be academically successful, so we will look carefully at a candidate's academic record and GMAT score. We also seek students who will be successful managers and leaders, and so we consider a candidate's work experience, leadership experiences, and so on.
问：录取委员会是不是对GMAT的数学与语文分数同样看重呢？
答： We are looking for a balance between the quant and verbal sections as well as a history of strong quant in your school work. If you don't have a quant history then we may put more weight on the quant section. For an international candidate--the verbal and TOEFL are also very important.
问：是什么使Indiana 名列three of BW's specialty rankings 的前十呢？
答：We have great faculty and a tremendous curriculum which has led to lots of positive reviews from recruiters. I, however, have never quite understood how they come up with some of the overall rankings!
问：如果GMAT 中的语文成绩和TOEFL 分数相差很大，会有什么影响？
答： I think we look at them both equally, as well as the strength of the English in the essays and in an interview.
问：你们如何帮助毕业生就业？
答： Our graduates are faring pretty well, especially in marketing and finance. 91% of our students who sought an internship had one.
Our career services staff is working hard to establish new relationships and maintain existing relationships. Also, our alumni network has been important for our students in the job search.
问：今年的申请人数会不会较去年有所上升？
答： It is a little early to tell. The economy hasn't picked up much, so I imagine a lot of people will still be applying to school, but some might stay in secure jobs they already have.
It’s still too early to tell. Our domestic apps were up a bit for our first deadline, but our international apps were down a bit.
问：毕业生实习的表现是不是对工作录取有着越来越重要的影响呢？
答： We have seen some companies rely more on their summer internship pools to make full time offers. But certainly not all are doing this.
Yes companies are using internships more, making their second year offers from their internship pool.
问：你们的校友会是如何帮助毕业生找工作的？
答： Our students have access to an on-line network of over 13,000 Kelley MBA grads!
问：是不是对每一份申请材料都评审的非常仔细呢？有什么遴选的标准吗？
答： We do an extensive review of every file. It gets read by a committee member and then by the director.
We read them all! Candidates spend a lot of time with applications, and so do we.
问：在某些轮次申请是不是有一定优势，比如录取率高一些？
答：We don't have quotas by round.
A candidate should apply when their application is at its best. I'd rather see a candidate apply for a later deadline with a strong app than rush an app to an early deadline.
问：国际毕业生的就业机会如何？
答： It has been harder for international students because of some of the US immigration laws. International candidates with strong English skills, previous work experience in the US, or different skills like a tech background have fared a little better. It also depends on industry.
问：针对每一份申请材料的评审，有多人参加？
答： One or two committee members do the first read before the app comes to me for the final review.
问：既然每一轮没有所谓的配额，那么录取的模式到底如何呢？
答： We do have four deadlines, so we do kind of have rounds. But admits are spread through the process.
问：你在申请人身上最希望看到的三个品质是什么？
答：Strong academic background, focus (why an MBA and why Kelley), and teamwork/leadership skills (that was four, sorry).
问：请谈谈the "Academy" at Kelley ？
答： An Academy is a hybrid between an academic experience and a club. We currently have eight of them in different functional areas. They each have a board of directors made of industry executives that you network with through trips, guest speakers, consulting projects, etc. Then there is usually some kind of course or project for credit but each functions a little differently.
问：Kelley的强项是什么？什么又是最需要改进的？
答： Our faculty is great, and our core curriculum is especially strong. The curriculum has lots of flexibility after the core to allow people to focus their studies to meet their goals.
We have a faculty committee looking at all aspects of the program (as they often do) to determine where we need to improve to stay innovative and current.
问：第一轮的录取通知什么时候发出？按照什么顺序？
答： First round decisions will likely go out in February.
We send decisions out on a rolling basis but closer to the guaranteed response date published in our application.
问：人们对Kelley 最大的误解是什么？
答：People assume that being in a college town in Southern Indiana is a liability. But we have no trouble attracting guest speakers, recruiters, and the like.
I think people worry that our location will limit recruiting, but it doesn't; we get companies from all over the US.
问：造访校园和面试对录取有多大帮助呢？
答： A visit is very helpful to you to assess whether you like the school, people, etc. It's also helpful to us because it shows your interest. We don't require interviews but we strongly recommend them. They too are very helpful to the admission committee to learn more about you.
问：你们的校园生活和课外活动都很丰富，那么你们的课业负担允许学生参加这么多活动么？
答： While I don't think MBAs sleep much (!) they take full advantage of opportunities in the program and on campus.
Our students are incredibly active. They take on a lot of leadership in the clubs, academies, etc. I think the small town lends itself to a lot of community and leadership. I am often impressed at how involved our students are. They tend to be a group who works very hard but also enjoys extracurriculars and social activities with each other.
问：GMAT分数的最低线是多少？尤其是各个分项？
答： We like to see quant and verbal scores at least at the 50th percentile. Lower scores make us nervous... we don't want to set anyone up for failure.
问：请谈谈Kelley's International Perspectives program？
答： KIPS is a program where you study a country for eight weeks. It culminates with a trip to that country over spring break. On the trip you meet with companies in that country. This year the trips are to either Ireland, Australia or China. It changes each year based on student interest.
问：随着网络泡沫的崩溃，Kelley 的电子商务专业有何变化？
答： The major itself hasn't changed much, but our information systems department changes/updates their courses more than any other department to stay current!
I can't answer your question that well, but I'm happy to put you in touch with our e-business faculty. You can email me at kacoffma@indiana.edu and I will arrange that.
问：在分配给录取委员会成员的申请材料时，是随机的还是根据申请人的背景分类呢？
答： Files are dispersed somewhat randomly, but we do try to concentrate international applicants from particular countries with certain committee members.
问：Kelly有没有开设人力资源管理的课程？大多数学生是如何解决住宿问题的？
答： We do have HR courses, org development courses and all related. We don't, however, offer a formal major in HR.
Most live off campus. The Bloomington community revolves around the University, and there are lots of affordable housing options.
Most students choose to live off campus. Housing in Bloomington is very nice and affordable. There are a lot of apartments that are easily accessible to campus (usually by bus, but our buses are free to students).
问：你们为国际学生提供奖学金或资助么？需不需要co-signer ？
答： We do have merit aid for international students. We do not have loans without co-signers.
问：什么原因使得１１％的被录取学生选择了你们的Health Care Products & Services ？
答： We have good relationships with a lot of healthcare companies like Pfizer and Lilly. I think the Academy helps as well.
问：你们的金融专业排名如何？
答：It was ranked 10th by business week.
问：有多少学生已经有了孩子？学校如何处理学生的配偶子女问题？
答：About 30% of our students are married.
We also have a very active Partner's group that organizes play groups for kids, activities for the partners and even provides new partners a mentor to help them adjust to Bloomington and the program.
问：在录取过程中，学校的再读生起到什么作用？
答：We have six second-year students who are full members of the admissions committee. They applied last year, and also serve as admission counselors and help us facilitate interviews.
问：学校为公众提供夜校课程吗？
答： IU does have some evening courses. You could visit the university website at www.iub.edu to get a sense of what is offered.
问：面试一般有什么人主持？校友会参与吗？
答： Interviews are conducted by admission committee members only (admissions staff and our student admission counselors).
Interviews are conducted by a member of the admission committee based on who is available that day. It may be me, Jim, or a student, or one of our other staff members (Tim and Shaun).
We don't offer alumni interviews.作者: Abigale89 时间: 2003-6-10 14:25
问：申请人最常见的错误是什么？
答： Not following directions! It is usually the simple things that trip people up.
Sometimes they don't spell check or have the right school in an essay. But a big one is not answering the essay question. Make sure you address what the question is asking and give specific examples.
问：大多数人在申请短文中会写一些他们认为你们希望听到的话，这样做有什么不妥吗？
答：That happens a lot as well. Don't worry about what you think we want to hear. Tell us what you want us to know about you.
The question I ask myself after reading a candidate's essays, do I know anything more about the candidate than before I started reading. In many cases, the answer is no.
问：你们进行电话面试吗？如何面试海外的申请人呢？
答： We often travel abroad to conduct interviews, although we didn't do that as much this year due to budget. Interviews are not required for admission, so if you are unable to visit campus then we won't be able to interview you. It will not be held against you.
问： Kelley是较少的一个能够拥有Cisco 作为十大雇主的商学院，为什么？因为他们的ＣＥＯ吗？
答： I'm sure it helps that he is one of our alums, but it also has to do with the strength of our IS major and the technology integrated into our program.
John Chambers is loyal to the Kelley School. He just gave us a personal gift of one million dollars to start the Chambers internship program.
问：亚洲申请人的GMAT最低线是多少？
答： There isn't a bottom line on the GMAT for Asians. We look at the complete app. Strong English skills are important though.
问：如何看待re-applicants？
答： We look to see how the candidate has improved, and what they have accomplished since their last application.
We do have the evaluation from the previous year. We look to see if they requested feedback and if they did anything to improve based on the feedback provided.
问：Kelley最好的三个专业是什么？毕业生从事投资银行的机会大吗？
答： We are seeing our investment banking program grow especially as a result of the academy, although corporate finance is still the larger concentration area in finance.
About 40% of our students are Marketing, about 40% Finance, and the rest spread between other majors.
问：如果申请人提交额外的推荐信，你们如何处理？
答： We provide a form, but they don't have to use it. They can write a letter on their letterhead. We prefer they send just two, but we will read what they send. They might consider saving the third letter to send if they are waitlisted.
They may send an additional letter if they think it provides a different perspective than the other two, but a third recommendation is really not necessary.
问： 能不能提供一下每家公司录用Kelley毕业生的职位？
答： I don't think we publish that specific data but if you email our graduate career services office, they could probably tell you the position a specific company hired for last year. It might get a little detailed to publish all of them.
I don't believe our career services staff publishes that specific information on their web site, but if you contact them, I'm sure they can provide some details.
问：Kelley对最近发生的一些丑闻有何见解？比如Enron, Worldcom, Tyco.
答：We talk about Business Ethics in our core and have had some recent guest speakers who have addressed the topic. I don't see our curriculum changing dramatically because of it, though.
We have always considered ethics in our curriculum. Currently, the focus is on critical thinking--the thinking necessary to make ethical decisions.
问：Kelley要求短文限制在两页以内，如果超出会有什么后果？
答： When it goes beyond the third. I'm not any happier, however, when they make it fit in two pages by using a very small font and no margins!
问：最低工作经验是多少年？可以包括实习吗？
答： We don't have a minimum, but on average our students have five years of full-time experience.
We do look at your internships, but are more concerned about the quality of your post undergrad work experience--leadership, progression, teamwork, etc.
问：如果已经拥有一个MBA学位，你们还会录取他吗？
答： Not if it was earned in the U.S. If it was earned outside of the U.S. and they can make a compelling case for why they need a U.S. MBA, we will consider them.
问：GMAT, GPA, essays, w/e or recommendations，请问你们最看重哪一项？
答：We don't consider any one factor any more or any less important than another. They all provide different bits of information about a candidate's potential.
问：短文超过两页，但字迹清晰工整，会对申请不利吗？
答： Not if it is relevant. But keep in mind we have 100s of essays to read, so being concise is important.
问：申请人年龄比较大，算是不利因素吗？比如年届３０？
答： Recruiters are looking for students to fill certain positions. If you are overqualified, it can often be difficult to find employment. Focus, past experience, and why you want an MBA will be important. What do you want to do when you finish?
It’s not about age, it's about the appropriateness of the degree in relation to the candidate's goals.
问：如果在以前的就学期间曾经有过领导经历，算有利因素吗？
答： leadership during your academic year through clubs, extra-curriculars or community service is helpful. It is also good to have it currently.
问：Kelley如何培养学生的领导能力？为学生提供什么机会？
答： We have a program called the Leadership Development Institute. It is designed to help students further their leadership skills in an effort to make them stronger business leaders. It starts during orientation.
LDI provides opportunities for all our students to get a complete leadership assessment as part of our orientation program.
And then, students are provided feedback, and information about opportunities to take advantage of through the MBA program to build their leadership skills.
LDI focuses on all aspects of leadership skills, from communication and presentation to the ability to think on your feet. There are targeted workshops offered through the year.
问：拥有技术背景的申请人有多大比例呢？被录取的又是多大比例呢？
答：We actually don't have admit rates broken down by functional or academic background.
问：您对被放在wait-list上的申请者有何建议？
答： They are welcome to request feedback and then try to address any concerns we might have had, but sometimes even good candidates are waitlisted due to limited space.
Waitlisted candidates should make sure we know they are still interested!
问：面试官在面试前是不是已经读过申请人的材料？
答： We encourage applicants to interview before they apply--we have only a resume.
问：Kelley的学生俱乐部活动丰富吗？例如the consulting and entrepreneurship clubs ？
答： The consulting academy is very active, especially in case competitions. We also have an entrepreneurship club and academy that work closely with the Johnson Center for Entrepreneurship and Innovation. They have tons of guest speakers and activities. They also have an internship program.
问：Bloomington 有多少家Starbucks？
答：At last count, three Starbucks.
问：Bloomington 的entrepreneurial activity多吗？
答： Actually yes. Bloomington has a lot of independently owned restaurants, stores, and small companies. The Johnson Center on campus also works with companies throughout the state, midwest and some national companies. Therefore, students have a lot of interaction with entrepreneurial companies if they want it.
问：大型管理咨询公司是如何进行招聘的？都由哪些公司来Kelley招聘？
答：Consulting recruiting is down on most campuses. We have some coming, but not as many as in '99 and 2000.
I believe that AT Kearney is coming this year. Other then that I would need to check with our career services because I haven't seen a current list. Jim might have more info, but we can always get it if someone emails us.
问：是不是身为Hoosier的篮球迷的申请者更受青睐？
答： If you aren't one when you enroll, you'll be one before you leave.
No, but it will make me like you a lot more--just kidding.
问：如果申请人在中国的证券业工作了6年，请问读完MBA后留在美国从事投资银行的可能性有多大？Kelley是不是一个最佳选择呢？
答： We have a great Finance department and an investment banking academy. We are a good choice for anyone interested in investment banking. It is difficult to predict, however, what the job market will look like in a few years.
问：对国际学生有何建议？
答： I would encourage you to start pursuing your visa early. Once you have made a decision on a school because the US is implementing some new databases that may delay the visa process. We don't have much info yet but when we do we will share it with our candidates. Strong communications skills are also important.
问：有多少学生就读于Kelley的国际商业专业？
答： We have lots of students interested in international business. More will pick it up as a minor than as a major.
问: John Chambers最后一次回母校是什么时候？他作讲座了吗？
答： I don't know the answer to that. I know that students have contacted him recently about coming and he is trying to find a date that works for his calendar. He travels a lot. He was excited to come, though...I'm looking forward to it.
I should know when he was last here, but unfortunately I don't know! He did host members of one of our Academies at Cisco last year.
问：投资银行俱乐部如何帮助学生进一步提高这方面的技能呢？
答：Networking mostly. They meet a lot of the top firms, take trips to NY and network. They also have guest speakers, special classes and access to our trading room.
问：在申请中，Indiana居民与非Indiana居民有何区别？
答： There is really no advantage or disadvantage to being an IN resident. The difference is just in tuition rates you pay.
Indiana residents and non-residents are treated the same through the admissions process.
问：海外学生的比例有多大？
答：We are at about 30% international.
问：请谈谈Kelley的国际商务专业？
答： We do have strong international mgmt major and academy. The academy also helps students find international internships. Dr. Garcia runs it and if you email me I can get you his email.
More choose it as a minor because they realize that companies typically don't recruit for "international management" majors. They are usually looking for candidates with an international perspective, and a functional expertise (like marketing, finance, etc.).
问：你们的雇主是不是更多来自中西部的公司？
答： We get recruiters from all over the US, but we have a strong marketing and corporate finance program, so many of those graduates go to consumer good companies. Many CGP's are based in the Midwest.作者: Abigale89 时间: 2003-6-10 14:32
美国中西部地区颇有地位的商学院。
其强项有： Corporate finance，marketing ， entrepreneurship， operations management，human resources management。
教学方式：课堂讲授、案例教学、实地项目各占1/3。全年开设的选修课有107门。该校的课程设置都很独特，分为五个专项小组（focus academics）：（1）The Investment Management Academy； （2）The Sports and Entertainment Academy； （3）The Internet and New Media Academy；（4）The Consulting Academy；（5）The Entrepreneurship Academy，另外，还将设立The Investment Banking Academy。每个小组由该专业的教授和商界实业家组成的顾问委员会领导，学生根据自己的兴趣申请加入，在其中既学习书面知识，又参加课外实习项目，使学生在学习过程中就和实业界建立起联系，有益于他们的就业前景。其中Sports and Entertainment专项一般学校没有，使得该专业的学生在就业市场上独具优势。
每届学生在200人左右，亚洲学生很多，给外国学生奖学金的数量也相当多。
学校背景介绍：
Indiana商学院在课程改革方面很激进。改革后，MBA学生在第一年只得两上学分，一学期一个。第一学期的课是由四名教授组成的教师小组教授基础主课，以以前是一开始就教功能课；第二学期由五人教师小组教授功能主课。进行这种改革主要是因为1990年《商业周刊》的调查中学校未能进入前20名，学校成立了一个委员会，征求学生、校友、工业部门代表、主要的商务行政人员和商学院官员的多方意见，对以后MBA的课程设置提出建议。于是，从1992年秋季开始，这所位于Bloomington、离最近的城市Indianapolis约45分钟车程的闭塞学校，开始了大胆的改革。
为满足学生在accounting, statistics和computing方面得到起点帮助的要求，学校在夏季开设了一种短期的“jump start”课。第一学期开始有10天的一系列熟悉环境的活动项目。每个学生都要求有自己的电脑。学生们可以通过Indiana的电脑网络用E－mail把信息送给同学或教授，他们也可以进入database去完成作业。
为了鼓励合作，学校还把班级人数从320降为250人，一年级学生被分成4个60－65人的小组，每两个小组由一组4名教授组成的教师小组管理，教包括accounting、managerial economics、quant methods和human resources management的基础课。第二学期，，小组数目缩减，你可以见到更多的同学。这时，一个与以前不同的五人教师小组会带你们修Functional core，探索accounting、finance、marketing、operations management和management information systems之间的关系，不管你以前修过没有都不允许免修或中途退出。MBA学生们对第一年的课程改革都很赞同，对第二年的却颇为不满，他们认为第二年的课与第一年的课程改革都很赞同，对第二年的却颇为不满，他们认为第二年的为期一年的脱节且没什么用处。IU学生可以从107门选修中选择，其中最受欢迎的是为期一年的Applied Investment Analysis and portfolio management。学这门课时学生管理＄200000的有价证券，在秋季学期里，他们研究股票、公司情况，监测当前大事，到了1月份，他们把钱投到在投资商界工作的IU校友的董事会里。金融也是一门很热的主攻专业。52％的学生从事这一方面的深入研究。IU鼓励学生暑期涉足“职业发展活动”（professional development activities），从最传统的时期实习一个Washington Campus Program 给学生以看Clinton Administration工作的机会。在学校里还有外语和文化研究所，为那些有志于在国际商务方面发展职业的人提供方便，还有德国Finland和Slovenia的暑期实习。在二年级，学校允许学生随意修课，你可以有一门或两门专业，每个专要求修四门课；你也可以选一个专业主修，一个兼修，甚至可以在一名教师指导下自己设计深入研究的方向在MBA学院以外选课。在第二年只有三门课必修：The Legal Environment、Macroeconomics和Strategic Management。有一门在国际商务方面的跨学科专业要求必修语言和文化。
MBA学生在一座七层的石灰石建筑里学习，这楼也包括行政办公室、教师办公室和教室。结了婚的学生往往要在Indianapolis和Bloomington之间往返，因为他们配偶在Bloomington这闭塞的地方是找不到工作的，这儿只有六万人。学生们的课外活动也很丰富，因为学校并不把MBA专业只看作是一系列的课程，而是看作是学生学业和个人发展的一段完整经历。几乎所有的学生都加入MBA协会，这个协会下面有14个专门兴趣小组，比如投资俱乐部会帮学生组织实习、请工业部门发言人来校做报告等；其他组处理MBA信件、社交大事、教师评估报告和公共关系等。学院每晚都有俱乐部聚会。星期五没课，星期四晚上，MBA协会会组织学生到酒吧聚会。另外，学生们经常Nick's English Hut品尝那儿上好的Pizza。
毕业生就业情况：
多年来，Indiana在就业方排名都很高，但近来有学生不满，说他们在中西部之处找不到工作。Indiana的学生往往在一年级时就开始为找工作准备了。他们学操作个人电脑，学怎样找时期实习。许多学校都有校长助理专门搞与校友的联关系，但没有学校像Indiana这样有专门的助理与公司协调关系。公司招聘者来校时，他们被安排在作为旅馆和会议中心的Indiana Memorial Union，教师们陪他们吃饭，向他们推荐赤出的学生，送给他们足球票。搞这方面工作的助理总是把他们服侍得每年都想再来。1995年，233家公司Bloomington招聘，约3／4的MBA学生找到了暑期实习工作，85％的毕业生找到了工作。Indiana在华尔街的人数不多，但在那儿工作的校友都愿意要IU的MBA。1996年，230家公司来校招聘，举行了约3402次面试。
申请小秘诀：
尽早申请。学校极力鼓励面试，但不作要求。1996年学校面试了52％的申请者。如想面试，需在来学校前两周打812－855－8006到MBA办公室预约。Indiana看重你的GMAT成绩和你对申请表上三个问题的回答，尤其是你对为什么要进这所学校的问题的回答。国内申请者最早的一个申请截止日期是1月6日，国际申请者则必须在2月1日之前把申请寄到。
INDIANA UNIVERSITY
Graduate School of Business
10 th and Fee Lane
Bloomington, Indiana 47405
E-mail address: mbaoffice@indiana.edu
Website addres: http://www.bus. indiana edu作者: frankdong 时间: 2004-7-2 16:46
这个学校虽然不错，但就业形势一直不怎么乐观
我想，地理位置起了很大因素吧作者: watergate 时间: 2005-4-1 15:02
那谁能告诉我，Kelley值得一去么？
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