在美国东北部的New Hampshire中部,有一个漂亮的美国的小镇Hanover。创立于1769的,美国常青藤盟校之一的Dartmouth College就坐落在这里。
今年Dartmouth College的Tuck商学院迎来了8位中国同学。我们在这里设立一个主题帖,不仅仅是为了回答一些大家的问题,我们更想把自己在Tuck的一些经历写下来,也许我们的故事会让后来人更好的了解美国这个最小的Top 10 Business School,了解Tuck那丰富多彩的MBA生活。
今年Tuck只有8位中国同学,其中3位来自上海,2位北京,3位美国。背景非常diverified,包括:Consulting,PR in Consumer Goods Firm,医疗,Supply Chain,奥组委(四大出身),大使馆,Software & EE Engineers。工作年限基本都在4年以上。录取轮次分布为:Early Decision:2人,Nov Round:3人,Jan Round:3人。男女比例为4男4女。
Tuck招生大小年比较明显。对中国申请者而言,今年是Tuck的小年。相比于去年13位中国同学,今年缩水不少。这对明年申请人也许是个好消息,希望T‘11人数会有所反弹。
据大概了解,Tuck今年国际学生中印度学生最多,超过20位。然后是巴西,中国,韩国,日本。
Tuck今年大概收到3000份申请,录取率为16%。最后实际报到253人,整体GMAT平均分712。
Wilderness——Outward Bound
从没想过自己Tuck的MBA生活竟然是这么开始的。划着一艘毫无动力的小木帆船,用整整5天的时间在缅因州外的大西洋上去漂流。
说实话,在申请的时候我对Tuck的课外活动不是很了解。一个原因是因为Tuck在这个方面不像有些学校那么大力宣传。当拿到offer后,学校给了我们一个pre-term program list,其中我们可以自由选择Tuck社区服务,international orientation,或者Outward Bound。
Outward Bound是Tuck已经坚持了几十年的一项pre-term活动。一般分两期,每期都是一周。第一期有皮划艇和Sailing,而第二期只有Sailing。怀着对Sailing的一无所知,我踏上了那艘“令我发指”的贼船。
原以为Sailing一定是一件非常惬意的事情。Grab a beer, sit on the desk, enjoy the sunshine, etc...这就是我以为的sailing。现实证明了我的想法“太年轻”!
船是一条长不过10米,宽不过2米的小木船。几个人?12个!
动力?运气好,有风就靠帆。运气不好?那就只有自己划。
刮风下雨怎办?挨着
晚上睡哪?船桨搭起的甲板上。人,是挤在一起的!想动一下脑袋?可以!稍一抬头,你的脑袋就可以放到旁边美国MM的小脚丫上。
内急怎办?上厕所啊!厕所在哪?船头的黄色小桶。厕所有门没?对不起,连遮挡布都没有。船上有女同胞没?便便时请向后看,三位PPMM在向你行注目礼。
就这样了?那太简单了。每天早上5:30,还请准时跳到冰冷刺骨的大海里。这叫Dip!
穿什么衣服Dip?当然是泳衣!怎么换?拿件衣服一围,脱光了换!女同胞怎办?请重复同样的程序!
在船上做什么?放帆,掌舵,航海,做饭,刷碗,悄悄话。。。
有太多难以磨灭的记忆了!我会清楚的记得,第一夜我至少4次无比清晰的听到在离我脑顶不超过1米的地方小便的声音。我会清楚的记得,第一天我在问自己:what shit I am doing here? 我会清楚的记得,狂风骤雨时,海上漂流的疯狂与眩晕!
开始时我不明白,为什么Tuck这么nice and peaceful的学校会有这么“粗犷”的活动?为什么我们要go through这么tough的situation?
现在,慢慢地,我想我明白一点了。就像Outbound开始前,那位Tuck老教授说得,Tuck是Team based。Team building不是靠说得,是靠做得,是要真正去建设的。Tuck不像有的School,招了一些人,然后再淘汰他们。Tuck的宗旨是帮助每一个Tuckie成长,毕业,最后成功。在船上,没有人可以逃避,每个人都要承担责任。不管今天你是captain,还是cook,你都是为整个team服务。你有义务帮助每一个人,别人也有义务去帮助你。在Tuck,你会学到团队精神的精髓,你会更好的知道什么是leadership,你会有信心在任何艰难困苦的环境下去thrive,因为你经受过了磨练!!
其实OB结束后,我们每个人都在在反思。我更想说的是,我其实开始喜欢这样的开始!黄色小桶的记忆终会变成笑谈,所有的磨练已经成了人生的财富。难忘缅因海上那满天的繁星,第一次看到银河,第一次可以辨星座。Outbound的风帆已经放下,而人生的风帆却刚刚打开!
2008/08/25 正式的晚餐
Tuck是个很有意思的学校。第一天正式orientation的晚上就教所有学生非常正统的礼仪。学校要求我们每个人必须dress up。在晚餐开始前,一位女士给我们讲解各种正式晚餐的礼仪。
- 领带中央要有个小窝。
- 对男士,餐巾只能放在一条腿上。女士,餐巾要覆盖两条腿。
- 入座前,请先帮助你右手边的女士入座,然后在帮助左手边的女士。如果两边是男的怎办?爱咋地咋地,不管!
- 穿深色西装入座,请非常礼貌的问一下侍者:Do we happen to have a black napkin?
- 坐下请解开西装纽扣,站起来请用左手系好中间一颗纽扣。右手随时准备握手。
- 餐巾只有在吃完饭,要走时,才可以叠好放在桌上,don't put in your plate。中间离席时,请放在椅子上。
- 酒杯永远在右手边,面包盘在左手边。
- 刀叉永远先那最外面的一副。
- 东西(例如面包)永远只能向右传。
- 搭面包的奶油放入盘中,奶油抹刀放在盘边,刀刃朝里。
- 请Host选红酒还是白酒
- 喝汤要从里向外舀,身子不要动,勺子放到嘴边喝(不能放入口中),不能漏,不能有任何声音。
- 永远不要把刀叉放到桌上,吃好一道菜请放入盘中。
- 喝完汤,勺子朝下放便是我在要一碗。
- 吃正餐前,先请host品尝。只有她表示赞赏后才可以吃。吃完正餐请将刀叉平行放到盘中右手边。
- etc。。。。。。
非常有意思!很多美国同学都不是很清楚这些。丰富多彩的MBA生活已经开始了。
2008/08/27 塔克的中国新闻
一个很有意思的小发现,在Tuck international news版,寥寥20余篇剪报,其中竟然有4份来自中国。4份中还有2份是中文,一份是8月份南方日报的,一份是21世纪经济报采访美国总统经济顾问,塔克商学院教授Mattew的。很诧异,Tuck怎么知道南方日报的报到呢?看起来也不像是学校有意识打的广告啊?Tuck这帮Faculty/staff还有能看的懂中文的?有意思!
2008/8/18--
Dartmouth非常漂亮,有点出乎预想。学校后面有条很美的connucticut river,见到有人在划canoe,有机会的话一定要试试。再往vermont的方向竟然发现还有很多马场,典型的美国小镇风光。来这里真的就感觉好象度假一样,虽然现在还不是最美的时候,满山的树叶刚开始变红,期待最美的autumn in vermont.--不过据说公司的info session从9月中旬就开始了,第一学期是最tough的,度假恐怕要等第二年了:)
前两天没开课,跟同学一起转了好多super market,wal mart, shaw's, price chopper...发现鸡腿真是便宜啊!呵呵。哈根达斯也是,大概4块一个品脱。其实只要有大超市,生活什么的就非常方便了,一般需要的东西都能找到。
2008/8/26--
这周orientation正式开始了。250多个人分成4个section,我在section1. 一个中国人,其他3个人在section2,4个人在section3.section4反而没有中国人。不过我们section倒是除了我以外还有三个ABC,一个帅哥,两个MM。帅哥竟然是medical school和mba的joint degree,不是一般牛啊。。
然后60个人的section又分成study group.我们study group一共6个人,两个美国人,一个mm在Peace corp泰国救助难民,一个gg在morgan stanley和雷曼兄弟做investment banking,一个法国人不过在美国工作多年,做汽车的,一个以色列人是engineer,之前还有半年在军队,(问他Kill过人没有他说有。。)还有就是mediacal/mba joint degree的ABC,和我了(我是marketing background)。由此可见大家的背景多么不同,可以说是multi culture,multi talented.
orientation一开始时间就觉得少了,课从早上8点一般上到5点,不过中间有时候是free time,可以自由活动。今天早上上了ethics,下午是resume workshop还有一节financial service讲学校的billing system,学还没正式开始就开始work on resume了。恩,找工作是头等大事。
就先贴这些吧。有机会贴些照片给大家看。Tuck是个非常棒的family,对它的爱与日俱增:)
现在想想,舍弃国内舒服安逸的生活来美国辛苦做两年的学生的确不是一个很容易的选择,但是人生就是由这样一个个看似不易的选择组成的,不是么?You only live once, but if you do it right, once is enough.
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作为半个Tuck的学生 我也来说一说自己对Tuck的感觉~
Tuck精致 师生比高 这是大家都知道的 不过不知道大家有没有仔细看Tuck professor的profile
Marketing方面,这里有Marketing可以算是大师级别的人物: Kevin L Keller. 他和Kotler合著了著名的Marketing Management,已被各大学校用为Marketing的教材。另外,Keller在Brand management颇有造诣。当初在faculty list看到他的名字的时候愣了一下,原来Keller就在Tuck呀!
值得一说的还有Marketing方面的Jackie Luan, Yale毕业的Phd。本来能在商学院教授Marketing的中国人就不多,何况Jackie Luan还是female,这个秋季会教授我们Marketing,到时候一定要好好领教一下!
Finance方面,这里有
从上面几位professor的profile就可以大概了解Tuck在Finance方面的水平了
Strategy & Management 方面professor的academic background也很强。在浏览的过程中我还发现,很多教授都获过各种各样的best paper award。但至今Tuck还没有开设Phd,可以说有点遗憾吧。但也许正是因为这样,教授们才能把更多的精力放在mba课程的教授上。They are there to teach!
另外,有趣的是Tuck里面有很多夫妻教授。比如上面提到的Keller,他的妻子也在Tuck。还有Katarzyna Lewellen夫妇,都是教finance的。以前听说Tuck对于申请mba的夫妇有时候会给与特别关注,难道是从教授就抓起了?呵呵~
以上只是自己的一点看法,希望对大家有用!
接过T‘09的大旗,在这里介绍一下Tuck。先简单介绍一下自己的背景:美国一般大学电子工程硕士,加州中型IT公司软件工程师,4年经验,2年创业经验。自己的背景比较普通,和上一届的师兄师姐比是平淡了许多,能够进入塔克主要是因为面试发挥比较好,还有运气。
先谈谈塔克的名气把。作为常春藤里最小的学校,她在中国的名气不大,但是在美国本土还是很响亮的。我离开公司前,公司的VP(平时从来不多说话)主动跟我打招呼,而且向我表示祝贺,让我小小的感动和自豪了一把。Tuck最引以为豪的是Teamwork. 据我们学校的一位教授吹嘘,我们学校是这个星球上teamwork最强的学校。一旦你进入了这个学校,这个团队,我们就有责任让你不掉队,整个team的目标就是帮助每个成员实现自己的目标。在以后的学习生活中,我会继续向大家汇报这个teamwork的实现情况。Tuck另外一个比较impressive的就是job placement. 去年wall street journal排名,塔克的找工作排名第一。学校的CDO特别尽职,很早就帮助我们准备简历并邀请各大公司来作info session. 尽管去年的形势很不好,我们还是保持90%以上的就业率,而且去年中国同学的summer internship都很好,有4个top tier Ibanking, 还有4个左右的 Consulting.
Hanover是一个美丽而宁静的小镇。去年这个城市被某杂志评为全美第二最适合居住的地区。这个小镇人口不多,但是有很多退休的富人。一个例子就是,一个给我们开巴士的老头,竟然是一个成功的创业家,后来卖掉企业,到这里定居。我曾经看到他年纪比较大,然后帮我们年轻人搬运行李,差点就一时冲动给人家小费。辛亏当时身上没带现金,要不然就糗大了…
作为半个Tuck的学生 我也来说一说自己对Tuck的感觉~
Tuck精致 师生比高 这是大家都知道的 不过不知道大家有没有仔细看Tuck professor的profile
Marketing方面,这里有Marketing可以算是大师级别的人物: Kevin L Keller. 他和Kotler合著了著名的Marketing Management,已被各大学校用为Marketing的教材。另外,Keller在Brand management颇有造诣。当初在faculty list看到他的名字的时候愣了一下,原来Keller就在Tuck呀!
值得一说的还有Marketing方面的Jackie Luan, Yale毕业的Phd。本来能在商学院教授Marketing的中国人就不多,何况Jackie Luan还是female,这个秋季会教授我们Marketing,到时候一定要好好领教一下!
Finance方面,这里有
从上面几位professor的profile就可以大概了解Tuck在Finance方面的水平了
Strategy & Management 方面professor的academic background也很强。在浏览的过程中我还发现,很多教授都获过各种各样的best paper award。但至今Tuck还没有开设Phd,可以说有点遗憾吧。但也许正是因为这样,教授们才能把更多的精力放在mba课程的教授上。They are there to teach!
另外,有趣的是Tuck里面有很多夫妻教授。比如上面提到的Keller,他的妻子也在Tuck。还有Katarzyna Lewellen夫妇,都是教finance的。以前听说Tuck对于申请mba的夫妇有时候会给与特别关注,难道是从教授就抓起了?呵呵~
以上只是自己的一点看法,希望对大家有用!
借用一下兄弟的地盘,搭个电梯
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深夜转帖:这是我在BW上看到的Tuck Admissions head Dawna Clarke的文章(06年10月的,不知道是不是toooooold,不过是我可以在公开新闻媒体上找到的最近的一次公开访谈了),在此转载,sorry有点长(大家也许可以针对自己感兴趣的问题看相应的段落)。。。盼望大家讨论what's the indication for Chinese applicants,尤其盼望tuckier可以针对AD的分析分享一下你们的想法
Tips for Taking on Tuck
Dawna Clarke
Dawna Clarke just completed her first full year as director of MBA Admissions at
Clarke says well-developed communication and interpersonal skills are both important to recruiters and vital to success at Tuck. That's why Tuck places such a heavy emphasis on the interview component of the admissions process, she says—those so-called "soft skills" are harder to gauge from the written application.
Another plus in Clarke's book: International experience, which she says is becoming increasingly important in the recruiting process.
Clarke spoke recently to BusinessWeek.com reporter Kerry Miller. An edited excerpt of their conversation follows.
In a nutshell, who's the ideal Tuck student?
We really pride ourselves on the fact that the admissions process is not formulaic. Because we're the general management program, there's not necessarily a background that we're looking for. We want people from lots of different functional areas, geographic areas, and industries. This year, 34% of our students are international, and there are about 25 different countries represented between the first and second year. We have students from lots of different industries—from health care, education, the Peace Corps, nonprofits—it's not just people from finance and consulting.
Overall, though, we're looking for positive people who are team players and have potential to be leaders. The students we admit have strong interpersonal skills, they're bright, they have strong analytical skills, they're strong communicators, and they have a capacity to succeed in a rigorous academic program. Over the years, Tuck has gotten great feedback from recruiters about the type of people they accept as well as the type of results that they produce, and I think the school is really proud of that.
Dean Danos has been pretty firm about not wanting candidates with fewer than two years of work experience unless they're applying for the combined MD/MBA (see BusinessWeek.com, 8/7/07, "B-Schools: You Don't Have to Wait"). Is that a policy that's likely to change anytime soon?
I haven't gotten any directive on that at all. Our average age did go down this year, from 29 to 28, and it's possible that it will come down again, but we still really like to see at least two years of work experience. So I don't anticipate that that policy will change anytime soon.
Have there been any other changes this year in the demographic makeup of the class?
Well, slight changes. This year, we have the highest percentage of international students that we've ever had in Tuck's history. Women increased to 33%, which was the highest percentage of women we've had in Tuck's history as well. And we're really shooting for a better balance among our international students. We're aiming for a pretty equal balance between Latin American students, European students, and Asian students, and we still have some Canadians in there as well, given our proximity to
Why is recruiting international students so important to Tuck?
We believe here that in order to be an international school, we need to recruit strong international students from all over the world who can help educate students on global issues and then will go back to their countries ultimately and represent Tuck in their home countries. But one area of emphasis that we're going to increase slightly is that we would like to see more domestic students who also have international experience.
That's not an admissions requirement, but if we're going to be a global school, the administration feels strongly you have to have a global curriculum, you have to have faculty members who have international expertise, and that it's really healthy for the future of the school to have a robust international-student population, especially as things have become more international in general.
When you say you want to see more students with international experience, what does that include—working, studying abroad?
Exactly. If they've had an opportunity to travel abroad, work abroad, to study abroad, to study a foreign language or two foreign languages, to go on an exchange program, to go on a global consultancy prior to coming to Tuck, that's all relevant.
One area that we're really emphasizing is we really want students to expand their horizons and gain more international experience while they're here, because we're hearing strongly from recruiters that it's becoming a very important criterion for them. They want to see that people have cultural sensitivity and have had some cross-cultural experiences. I think it's [misleading to say] that the only people who can offer international experience are international students.
Can you take me through the life cycle of an application once it arrives at the admissions office?
One change that I've made to the process is that I read every single application after they've been read twice. I feel very strongly that I should be heavily involved in reading and compiling the class, so I do evaluate. So, an applicant applies. The application, when it's complete, is sent out for a first read, and every application is read independently. We highly recommend an interview, but you don't have to have submitted your application yet to have the interview.
One thing I love about our process is the amount of time that goes into each individual application. Every application is read independently by two members of the admissions committee. We don't use students in the process of evaluating written applications.
I'll make a final decision, when I can, and that decision may be to admit someone, to wait-list them, to deny them admission. Or it may go to the admissions committee, and at the end of each round, we will talk about those applications. At that point, there are a couple of decisions that can be made. For example, if we have a candidate who hasn't done a lot of quantitative work but otherwise really shines, we have what are called offers of contingencies.
We may ask them to take a class or two, or we may ask them to come to one of our pre-enrollment programs to beef up their quantitative skills [see BusinessWeek.com, 10/19/06, "Tuck's Intensive Numbers Crunch"].
What are some common mistakes that candidates make in their applications?
I think the most common mistake is that sometimes when people write their essays they will take direct quotes from our Web site or viewbook, or they will start an essay off with something like, "According to Thomas Jefferson, leadership is…." That might tell us a lot about what the particular person that you're quoting thinks about leadership, but we really want to know about what the applicant has to say.
Quoting from viewbooks or the Web site or quoting from other people isn't particularly compelling, because we're really trying to get to know the applicants themselves. We want to see that they have done their research, but not to the point that they need to quote the brochure.
Another common mistake is making very broad, sweeping statements like, for example, "I'm a strong team player." It's much more compelling when they use an anecdote or a vignette or an example. And tell your recommenders to do that as well. Some applicants make broad, sweeping statements but don't necessarily substantiate them.
So some of the best recommenders are not the ones that say this person is bright and a born leader and gets along with everyone, but ones that really write some stories, giving examples how this person really shined in the workplace and stood out. It's also really common to see people cut and paste their essays. Almost every day we'll see something like, "the
I would also say it's important to accentuate your strengths, not your weaknesses. Sometimes in an interview or in an essay, people will use that time to talk about a weakness. So they may, in an essay or interview, draw attention to the fact that they don't do well on standardized tests and will talk about why they don't do well on standardized tests. I would say in the interview in particular, when you only have half an hour or 45 minutes, you really want to accentuate your strengths and not use the majority of that time to draw attention to your weaknesses.
One of the essay questions this year is, "Discuss the most difficult constructive criticism or feedback you have received." How do you accentuate the positive in an essay like that?
In that essay, we're trying to get a sense of people's maturity level and sense of self-improvement. I think all of us hopefully have received constructive criticism in the past and hopefully have some examples of how we've taken that to improve ourselves, whether it's personally or professionally.
Going to a top business school is going to be a challenging experience, and while it's generally a positive experience in terms of building self-confidence, there are times when you're going to get constructive criticism that might be hard to hear. So, I think it can be a positive in terms of, "I got the feedback and initially it might have been difficult to accept, but I realized that it was true. And here are the actionable steps that I took to improve in this arena."
Can you explain what the interview process is like?
People have several options in terms of interviews. The majority of our interviews are conducted here at Tuck, in person. We think that's really important for both our benefit as well as the applicant's benefit, because they can come and see
Interviews are conducted by both members of the admissions committee as well as second-year students. So we have second-year students who go through a selection process, and are chosen and trained pretty extensively. We meet with them occasionally. We're meeting with them on Wednesday night to give them some feedback on how they're doing and give them updates on trends we're seeing, and so on and so forth.
Anybody who wants an interview can come to Tuck, on a first-come, first-served basis. If you don't come, we will interview the strongest candidates in each round by invitation. If an applicant isn't able to come to Tuck—and there are many circumstances when people are not—what we'll do is review the application first for a pre-screen to see if an interview is necessary, and we will arrange an interview with an alum, if necessary.
In some cases, we'll do phone interviews. Sometimes we travel internationally or in the country. If one of us is going to be in a certain location, we'll usually open up some interview spots when we're on the road, for people who have been invited.
Are the interviews hard to do without having the applicant's file in front of you?
We do require a résumé. Some schools I know don't, but we do ask a candidate to submit a résumé in advance. We don't look at the application in advance intentionally, and one reason is logistical. We just had our first deadline in October. Well, we had been open for two months interviewing candidates who were hoping to apply for the October deadline. So if we were to require that their application was here, we would have to wait until after October to even begin those interviews, and we have about 30 visitors a day, five days a week.
The other, more important reason we don't look at the application part beforehand is in fairness to the applicant. I think it's better for us to not know what their GMAT score is and not know what their references say, because as much as we've all gone through extensive training, we all are human, and I don't want a person's GMAT score to influence what an interviewer has to say about someone.
For example, if I see that somebody has a 760, there's a potential for me to say, "Oh, this is such a great candidate," and really to focus on the strength of that candidate. Likewise, there might be a candidate who really shines interpersonally and maybe their GMAT score is a little bit below average, but you want to give them an opportunity to shine without us knowing what their GMAT score is or what their references have to say. If their references point us in a certain direction, you might hone in on that area a little bit more than doing the interview relatively blind.
Do you have any advice for applicants on how to prepare for the interviews?
I would recommend that people approach their interview with a strategy. When candidates are applying to Tuck, so many of them are so bright and so impressive, and there are probably 50 things that they would love to talk to us about in their interview. But there's limited time, and I would recommend that they spend some time thinking about five of the top skills, experiences, or accomplishments that they most want to emphasize.
I would literally write a list of everything that you're proud of before your interview and then cut it in half, and cut it in half again and cut it in half again, until you say, "You know what? If I have limited time, here are the five points I'm really hoping to get across in this interview." With each of those five bullet points come up with some examples and substantiate them.
Another piece of advice is to do research on the school. A lot of schools will talk about the fact that they're looking for fit, and basically what that means is that they're looking for people who've done their research and are going about this decision using some insight and good judgment about what it is that they're looking for and what that school has to offer. There are so many good schools out there, and what you want to do is convince your interviewer or your admissions committee that that school is a good bridge between your past and your future plans.
The best way to make a compelling case is to really show that you've done your research and that you know what the school has to offer and what you have to offer the school.
When you're talking about fit, for a lot of applicants I'm sure the location is a big piece of that. You've worked at Darden, in
Well, obviously both have advantages, and some people are more comfortable in a big city. I see advantages here. This is a really charming, safe,
It's the only college in the country that owns both of those. So there's a lot of hiking. You have the White Mountains, and you can go on day trips to
One of the things that struck me as really special about Tuck is the school spirit here—and I do think it has something to do with the location. Tuck has residence halls, and it's one of only a couple top MBA programs that are residential. A lot of the single students live in a dorm their first year, but there's a lot of off-campus housing within walking distance of Tuck.
There's married student housing, too. I think bonding goes on when you're attending a residential school where people don't disperse into a big city on the weekends. They're doing things together, and making a lot of fun and being pretty creative in terms of some of the annual celebrations that take place on weekends.
You mentioned that Tuck offers married housing. Do you have other services for families?
Tuck has a pretty strong reputation for being very family-friendly. There are many jobs available, including several seasonal positions in the admissions office, just to make it easier for students who are coming with spouses. We also have a very, very active partners association here that's funded by the school. They don't have to be married—it could be husband-wife, domestic partner, girlfriend, whatever. The partners association has everything from social activities to day trips to
I think the school does a lot to embrace them in the community, and I think the partners give a lot to the school as well. As a matter of fact, one of the partners was joking with me that the best way to come to Tuck is to be a partner because you get all the advantages at Tuck but you don't have to do all the work.
so impressive!
i fall in love with tuck immediately!
[em05]相当精彩的校园生活,令人神往
Tuck is my dream school
谢谢Tuck的前辈。。
希望tuck在大陆的名声越来越响!
其实Tuck对中国申请人还是很友好的 只不过program size不大 实在招不了太多的人
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