分几个Section介绍一下美国的会计专业申请及就业情况,希望对大家有所帮助。
1 老套-个人情况:本科会计,04年8月二千来美,就读于综合排名100以后的州立大学会计硕士(没办法,偶没钱,读不起好学校)。幸运的是学校商学院会计专业还不错,很喜欢
2 美国会计学位介绍:由于AICPA对注册会计师考试的要求,大多数学校设立了会计硕士,也有一些学校没有,只有MBA,比如HARVARD,NU,UChicago之类。会计有如下几种硕士学位:Master of Accountancy (MACC), Mater of Science in Accounting, Master of Accounting Science, etc. 学位本质都是一样的,叫法不同而已.
3 会计排名:读书的目的是为了工作,个人认为学会计选择学校要和找工作挂钩,不能单纯相信学校的排名,切不要盲目依赖学校综合排名。具体的排名情况偶就不多说了,USNEWS到处都找得到。偶说的选择要和工作情况挂钩,意思是注意商学院CAREER OFFICE每年9,10月回到CAMPUS来得雇主名单,你看看你的工作目标是什么,你的目标公司又没有来学校招人就可以了。GENERALLY, 如果大家的目标都是4大或者大公司的话,4大会去招人的学校都不错。大家注意看学校的网站了。
4 奖学金情况:看到网上有些帖子谈到会计专业的奖学金,再此做一些补充。会计奖学金没有想象中那么难,也没有想象中那么容易。换句话说,美国现在的移民政策是不再限制F1,直接后果是工作签证H1-B越来越难申请。今天偶知道众多XDJMS没有拿到H1-B. 学校对中国学生的招生也放宽了许多。会计最牛的学校UIUC, UT AUSTIN, MICHIGAN之类一般很难拿,或者是根本没有。我比较了解UIUC的情况,简单谈一下。UIUC的会计硕士分为MSA,MAS。一个是给美国人读的,一个是给外国人读的,美国人的那个专业,大家就不要想了,咱们没戏。给咱们读的那个专业是没有奖学金的,记住,一分钱都没有。学制一般是每年6月入学,下一年5月毕业。学费一年4万多,记住还没有加生活费。生活费一年再加个1万到2万吧。也就是要5万多6万一年。就业形势应该还是很不错的。有钱的同志们,可以申请哈,录取的要求不算高。GMAT都不要。不过大家要查查网站,我说错了不要怪我,也可以问问在UIUC的朋友们。次一些的学校,特别是州立大学,奖学金还是很有可能的哈。全奖难度要大一些,但是还是很有可能的。在此解释一下全奖:就是学费全免,每个月还有1000多刀生活费的。具体学校,奖学金难度,恕无可奉告,自己研究一下了。
5 申请:99%都要GMAT。这个就不重复了,前面也说了,有一些特别牛的学校没有奖学金一般没有GMAT也可以录取的哈。TOEFL,具体学校要求不同,一般达到最低要求就可以了,自我感觉。ps 及其他,实在是没有什么好讲的,个人的具体情况不同。
6 美国注册会计师执照:和国内差不多的是,没有执照也可以照样工作,特别是不在public firm里工作的话,有没有都无所谓,但是执业发展长远看,还有有比没有好很多。考试要求每个州要求不一样,几乎所有州都要求修满150个学分,或者取得会计硕士才有资格参加考试。其中还有各种具体的要求,比如那几门会计的课程比较要修啊,(audit, tax, financial accounting, business law, etc) 除会计以外商课课程必须要多少个学分阿,等等。也是一样,我只解释一下综合的情况,具体情况请参考各州的accounting board. 很多人会问到国内学分怎么算的问题,我所了解到的情况是大多数州把国内的本科学为算为120各学分,也就是说还有30个学分要在硕士当中拿。各州要求不一样,大家还是具体情况具体处理阿。考试内容,四门:Financial Accounting & Reporting (相当于国内大学课程的基础会计,中材,高材,中材比重很大), Auditing (国内的审计),Regulation (这个和国内差距最大,基本是重新学,考个人所得税,公司税,合伙制企业税,加上一些商业法规:合同法,证券法,房地产法等等),Business Environment and Concepts (相当于国内的成本,管理会计,经济学,以及IT). 计算机化考试,每年的1,2,4,5,7,8,10,11月都可以考,跟国内机考gmat差不多。通过的分数:75分。记住不是60分,是75分。从第一门考试通过时刻起,18个月内必须全部通过考试,否则通过的考试成绩作废。最后全部通过后参加开卷的一门职业道德,90分算通过。考试通过以后,大多数州都要求有1-5年的工作经验才能拿执照。
7 累死了,最后谈谈就业情况:感谢安然和安达信,也感谢布什政府的SOX法案,企业对会计人员的需要从04年开始剧增,现在还没有饱和,当然07年情况肯定没有04,05年好,但是总体情况,跟其他专业比的话,就业形势还是不错的。当然,由于从07年开始H1-B越来越难,而且能够sponsor H1-B的企业越来越少,外国人找工作还是有一定的难度的。我的建议是,一定要抓住每年9,10月各学校的校园招聘的机会。
除CPA之外,美国还有其他几个会计执照:
CIA: CERTIFIED INTERNAL AUDITOR,注册内部审计师
CMA: CERTIFIED MANAGEMENT ACCOUNTANT注册管理会计师
CISA: CERTIFIED INFORMATION SYSTEM AUDITOR注册信息系统审计师
其他ACCA之类不是美国的。是英国的。
美国会计学硕士留学 留学美国会计专业
很多朋友本科不是会计专业的,想咨询会计硕士的情况。
非会计本科还是可以申请的,除非学校有特殊要求,如果是商科类专业基本上还是没有什么限制的,比如本科是金融,商业管理等等。其他理工科专业要读应该还是可以的,强调一下,具体的情况要咨询你要申请的学校,如果学校说可以就可以。但是一般情况下,非会计专业的朋友在硕士阶段必须补本科的课程,例如INTERMEDIATE ACCOUNTING, ADVANCED ACCOUNTING, AUDIT, TAX等。意味着你的硕士可能要花比一般的人时间长一点。如果是牛人的话,也无所谓,每个学期多修一两门就可以了。
看到有朋友问薪水问题
各个地方,各个LEVEL的薪水不一样,首先要说的是,不管国内有无工作经验,在美国毕业基本上是从ENTRY LEVEL做起。
四大的薪水水平:(物价高的地区工资高,这个比较公平)
大多数地区四大起薪4万5到5万一年,加州,纽约东西部地区一般5万5。
500强企业:说实话,工资和四大差不多,甚至更高,而且福利普遍比四大好。但是,还是还是很多人选择四大。
其他企业:分情况定,有的好的也有4万,如果做BOOKKEEPER,或者AP,AR,一年3万的也有。还是老化具体情况具体处理。
加一点,没有工作经验的朋友要申请会计硕士不用担心。因为美国人普遍都是本科和硕士连读的。没有工作经验并不会给你带来任何的劣势。
会计在美国的工作,语言要求相对还是比较高的,特别是在PUBLIC FIRM。数学倒是影响不大,如果不读博士,会计基本上和数学没有什么关系。
一位父亲的经验
儿子大学毕业准备到美国读硕士研究生,春季招生,会计专业,硕士研究生,正在苦苦地寻找着排名靠前又符合自身情况的学校。
时间过去了五个月了,儿子出国的事情已经办好。简单介绍一下不用中介公司自己选择学校的过程,也可以让其他朋友借鉴。
1.先选准要去的城市。东海岸还是西海岸?是商业、工业还是信息业。
2.选学校。根据自己托福和GRE或者GMAT成绩选择相对排名靠前学校。美国有5000多所学校,学校综合排名在350名以内比较好。美国每年的排名学校:西单图书大厦有售。
3.写个人陈述。非常重要的环节,最好参照新东方学校的范例进行陈述。
4.开通网上支付银行卡。每报一所学校需缴报名费30-60美元。
5.发信。网上邮件和邮局邮件同时发出。当然你的老师推荐信、大学期间的平均成绩单(GPA)和资金证明必须发信才能收到。
5.申请奖学金。你如果一定要有奖学金才去上学,你的推荐信和陈述是十分关键。
6.美国的录取通知书和I20表寄来后,即可缴费申请到美国大使馆签证了。
7.有个叫CD的网可以交流出国经验。
另外美国时间上午10点左右和学校秘书沟通最方便。资金证明不能少于一年读研费用,且越早存入越好。
儿子申请五所学校,有四所都来了录取通知书。他的GPA成绩比较好,获得了23%的奖学金呢。
申请学校的费用不足4000元(不含签证费)。 留学会计美国硕士
会计学申请需要什么背景? 会计学是近来留学美国的热门专业,而会计专业的毕业生在美国的就业率是所有专业中最高的,因此许多本科非会计专业的学生在出国的时候也在考虑转到会计系,为将来的就业做好准备。很多申请人因此产生疑问,我的背景、专业可以申请会计学吗?是不是一定要会计专业的背景呢? 答案是否定的,会计学申请并不一定全是会计专业毕业生,许多经济学、金融、数学、统计甚至理工科的学生都可以申请,一般学校不会要求申请人本科是会计专业。但对于非本专业学生,会有先修课要求,比如:financial accounting,management accounting,taxation等。还有的学校甚至本科任何专业都可以申请,等到入学后再补上本科的会计课程。一般的会计课程都是一年制,但有一些商学院的会计专业分两种读法,一种是本科是会计,这样到了研究生就读三十几学分,一年,就可以毕业了。另一种是本科不是会计,到了研究生要读六十几学分,两年,就可以毕业了。 由于学校专业设置的不同,有些会计专业同时接受会计专业和非会计专业的申请人,这一类学校包括了大部分的MSA专业,有些只接受会计专业的申请人,比如UIUC的MAS,同样也有专业只接受非会计专业的申请,比如UIUC的MSA和UNC的MAC。 由于UIUC的会计专业排名非常高,而其专业设置也比较典型,以UIUC的两个专业为例。 Master of Accounting in Science,简称MAS。入学要求是美国会计本科毕业和相关专业毕业。 Master of Science in Accountancy,简称MSA。主要录取没有会计背景的学生,包括国际学生和美国学生(一般是本科读金融,经济,或者工程等其他学科的学生)。MSA的课程主要是中级会计,对于没有一点会计背景的人来说,能打个很好的基础; 换种情况,有一些专业背景的,可以选修更多的高级课程,例如Derivative Accounting,Economics of Organization,Business Combination,Financial Reporting,还有Foreign Currency Translation等等。MSA的学生可能会缺乏这方面的知识,但是CPA Review Course也会覆盖他们这方面的缺漏。会计专业本科留学美国 美国会计研究生留学 对于非会计专业的申请人,但本科又修过一些会计课程的申请人,学校会审核申请人本科时的课程,再要求申请人补上一些必须的先修课。不同的学校在先修课程上的要求不同,一般大学会计学院的网页会列出对申请人的专业课程要求,在申请时学校根据成绩单会评估申请人的课程,再决定是否需要补修。建议发邮件到会计系里,直接问一下需要修哪些课程,免得网上的信息有误。 不同的专业,申请的策略就有所不同。学校在评估申请人的条件时,也不单单只看申请人的专业是什么,而是从其他经历综合起来考虑。当然,拥有会计的背景或者相关的会计经验也是相当重要的,美国学校不可能录取一个与会计毫无关系,而只是在PS或者Essay中说我对会计学很有兴趣的申请人。有这么一个案例,申请人的硬件成绩非常好,GMAT 760, TOEFL 620+,GPA经WES评估后有3.66, 但这样的分数,却因为本科非会计背景(只上过2、3门会计课和参加过一项会计课题),却屡屡被拒。这当中当然也有其他因素,但不可否认的是,申请人的专业背景在这里成了一个短板。事实上前50的学校大都喜欢招收一些有会计背景或者相关经验的申请人,一点会计背景都没有的话建议申请稍微靠后的学校。但最好的办法无疑是在申请前加强自己的专业背景。此外,申请中要注意的是ESSAY,还有实习经验是不是与会计相关。很多人认为实习或者工作单位的知名度越高越好,其实知名度倒是其次的,国内的企业国外知道的并不会很多,像国内的一些大券商,申万银河什么的国外了解的人也很少。而Essay写作的的关键则是申请人要在ESSAY里面说出确实做了实事,学到了东西。 |
The college of William & Mary,这个是一个历史悠久、在美国很有影响力的一个学校。从多年的申请者中,这个学校很喜欢上海财经大学的申请者,基本上每年都招收上海财经大学的学生。
Tulane University, 这个学校不提供奖学金的。但是这个学校不看重你本科的学校,也不是十分看重申请者的G,T 成绩,他主要看重的是申请者的阅历。也就是这个学校是一个贵族学校。如果学生家境条件很好,很看重美国的排名,可以申请这个学校。
Boston College, 这个学校的钱比较多,只要你有一方面优秀,只要你掌握好技巧,你很有可能获得奖学金。
Case Weston Reserve University, 这个很有声望的大学,并不是以TOEFL,GMAT,GPA 和你的本科学校主要来评断申请者的录取情况,主要是看待你对本专业的认识程度和理解力。
UIUC提供两个会计硕士课程
1)Master of Science in Accountancy,简称MSA. 入学要求:不需要G,不需要TSE,主要录取没有会计背景的学生,包括国际学生和美国学生(基本上都是"非UIUC会计本科"的毕业生);
2)Master of Accounting in Science,简称MAS. 入学要求: G, T&TSE,要求美国会计本科毕业和相关专业毕业(可以换句话说,基本上是清一色在美国读本科的人,当然包括个别在美国念本的中国人,韩国人等)。
如果申请人在会计这方面有很强的专业背景和工作经验那建议他们申请UIUC MAS的这个课程,既有名气实力又强。
留学美国和澳大利亚会计专业之比较
21世纪,这个知识经济的时代,在充满机遇的同时,也隐藏着越来越多的挑战。在竞争日趋白热化的今天,想要在时代的浪潮中找到自己的一席之地,已经不能仅靠真才实学,还需要更华丽的包装来推销自己。于是,出国开始成为流行,海归业已经不是一个新鲜的名词。从美国,加拿大,再到现在的澳大利亚,新西兰,越来越多的莘莘学子把目光投向海外。
而会计却无处不在,尤其是注册会计师(CPA)这个稳定和高薪的职业,更是让学子们趋之若鹜。随着全球经济的一体化,注册会计师也越来越国际化。特别是加入中国WTO以后,中国的企业开始在国外上市,对会计也有了国际化的需求。于是,美国和澳大利亚两个国家在会计专业的优势,引起了学子的关注,越来越多的中国学生开始了美 澳会计留学之旅。
美国和澳大利亚的会计专业如此吸引中国学生,确实有其不可忽视的优势,但很多学子多于自己到底应该选择去美国,还是去澳大利亚读会计,还十分迷茫。其实这两个国家的会计专业都是十分优秀的。
首先,在美国,会计专业无疑非常吃香的,是近几年美国最好找工作的专业。刚毕业的大学生平均起薪就能达到每年44,564美元,有的会计系毕业生不用迈出校门,就能被公司录取,甚至有的优秀毕业生会被几家公司争抢。无论是本科还是硕士,美国很多大学都开设了会计专业。最有名的是,德克萨斯大学奥斯汀分校 ,这是一所全美综合排名44的公立大学,此外还有著名的宾夕法尼亚大学,芝加哥大学等。无疑,去美国学习会计选择多,好就业。
其次,在澳大利亚,会计专业长期以来一直占据着澳洲紧缺职业列表的一席之位,成为各国留学生都不得不关注的热门专业。澳洲的大学普遍都提供会计本科和硕士课程,很多大学的会计课程在国际教育业界也一直享有盛誉。其中悉尼大学,墨尔本大学的会计专业更是世界一流,此外有大家熟悉的麦考瑞大学,迪肯大学,新南威尔士大学,这些大学的会计专业也十分出名。无疑,去澳大利亚学习会计也是不错的选择。
不管是美国,澳大利亚抑或其他国家,选择适合自己学历和家庭情况的国家和学校,才是最佳的选择。
中、美会计专业对比 |
在美国,会计硕士研究生专业(Master of Accountancy简称MAcc),一般设在商学院,MBA的学生和会计专业学生可以互相选修对方专业的课程。在美国,MAcc的课程设置通常是24个月,也有的学校是12个月(通常学习的时间就只有9个月)。所以在这么短的时间内,通常就是学习和实践。会计学是一门实践性很强的学科,既研究会计的原理、原则,探求那些能揭示会计发展规律的理论体系与概念结构;又研究会计原理和原则的具体应用。会计学从理论和方法两个方面为会计实践服务,成为人们改进会计工作、完善会计系统的指南。 美国学的会计和国内不同的地方很多。首先是使用的体系不一样。美国是用美国体系(American System)中国用的是国际标准(International Standard)。区别的根本在于会计法、会计制度以及这些法规、制度的建立过程。会计是人为设计出来的管理方法,完全建立在制度上。一旦法规制度不同,行为和结果就不可能一样。美国有名目繁多的独立会计协会,最主要的有针对公司企业的FASB和针对政府机构及非营利组织的GASB等,专门负责会计制度设计、制定和监督会计制度执行,包括听取公司和部门的反馈意见,以及在执行中遇到的问题。 在美国当会计不需要会计证,但要注册会计师(Certificate Public Account简称CPA)制度。会计这个工种专业性强,中美会计体制差异大,回国工作不太好定位,但会计专业的美国学生非常好找工作,这个行业和医药行业一样,基本不受经济低谷的影响。 在美国,税务(Taxation)是会计工作的重头戏,也是留学生的主攻方向。美国大公司和会计师事务所一向缺税务会计。美国税法复杂繁琐,替纳税人填报所得税和退税单也是会计的一项重要收入。如果希望未来挑选工作单位余地更大一些,主攻审计也许更合适,因为一般公司都需要内部审计员。经过商学院训练的会计研究生还可以进咨询公司、会计师事务所或某些大公司做咨询顾问Consultant,大的会计师事务所都包揽商业咨询业务。 关于会计专业回国工作的情况:如果是会计专业博士毕业回国,也许可以到大学里教书或做研究。但是硕士生学的东西偏重实际操作,做研究理论基础似乎不够,在国内找到合适的操作环境恐怕也不容易,也许到美资或跨国企业,凭着英语能力和商学院培养的素质回国找份白领工作没问题。 |
会计专业的申请形势及相关专业的横向比较
现在每年有很多申请美国商学院的学生,在商学院的众多专业里,会计这个专业竞争是很激烈的。会计是个应用性很强的一个专业,而且无论在美国还是在中国,都很容易找到工作,所以申请的中国学生很多。那么我们的学生怎么才能有一个好的申请结果,怎么样才能从其他的申请者中脱颖而出呢?下面我们从几个方面来分析和解决这个问题。
1. 专业与专业间的横向比较
会计专业的申请与理工科的专业(数学,化学,物理,生物等等)申请相比,获得奖学金几率小很多。因为首先美国大学的会计专业很少有给国际学生设立全额奖学金的,还有现在每年有很多的人申请会计这个专业,竞争激烈也是一方面。但是并不是说会计这个专业就申请不到奖学金的,只是说相对于其他专业来说,获得奖学金的几率很小。而且通常情况下,想要获得半奖以上的奖学金,是很困难的,获得小奖还是相对容易的。在06年的申请学生当中,有最高拿到Boston College 80%奖学金。所以我们可以看出:没有不可能的是事情。
2. 会计专业与商学院其他专业的比较
首先会计专业与经济学,金融学相比较,其应用性更强。经济学和金融学更偏重于知识的学习和研究。绝大多数的会计专业在录取要求上,都要求具有GMAT 成绩,而经济学和金融学在录取要求上,大多数学校是可以接受GRE 成绩的,这点是不同的。会计专业的录取更偏重于你的GPA,也就是你本科的学习成绩和你对本专业的认识,在奖学金上,会更加看你的G,T 成绩。即使你有本专业的工作经验,如果你的G,T 成绩一般,还是很难拿到大额的奖学金。相反如果你的G,T 成绩很好,对本专业有独到的见解和认识,那么你获得奖学金的几率会大一些。对于经济学和金融学来说,如果你要申请Master 的话,基本上是不会有全额奖学金的。但是如果你申请PHD的话,获得全额奖学金的几率会大很多,当然要求你必须对本专业有独到的见解和认识。今年我们有申请到OSU 经济学PHD全奖。学生重点是对经济学的认识的学习。而且会计专业对数学的能力要求比较高,至少比申请经济学,金融学,MBA 要求要高很多,而且学得越高,要求的越深。如果你要申请博士的话,那么你必须要求有过硬的数学功底。
3. 会计专业今年的录取形势和变化的介绍。
近年来,会计专业的申请形势看好,想要到美国学习会计,已经不像以前那么困难了。只要你有一般学校的本科学历,你的G,T 成绩不是很低,你应该可以申请得到美国综合排名前150的学校,但是奖学金的话,你可能就只有几千或者没有奖学金。如果你要是想申请到很好的学校:比如说综合排名前30的学校,并不是说你必须是一个很优秀的学生,你的G,T成绩很高,你的GPA很好,并不是说你必须是个完美的人。你是一个普通的学生,一样可以申请得到很好的学校。因为现在学校已经不是很看重你的G,T 成绩了(相对于以前的申请情况而言),学校主要是看你对会计的理解和认识,你在本科的学校都作过什么论文。只要你好好准备你的申请材料,你同样有机会申请得到好的学校。今年的会计申请形势应该会更好的
美国大学会计学专业Top10介绍 美国是世界上最早设立会计学硕士及博士学位的国家,设置会计学研究生项目的直接动因最初是满足二战以后工商界的迫切需要。1948年,美国得州大学奥斯汀分校(University of Texas at Austin)首先设立了会计学专业硕士学位(Master in Professional Accounting)。该硕士项目创立伊始,就定位于培养学生的会计技术和职业技巧,强调为学生在高速变化的商务环境和步伐快捷的竞争中的业绩表现做好准备,并且强调培养具有全球视角、高度责任感和未来领导能力的人才。 目前在美国设置会计学专业硕士学位的主要是一些知名综合性大学,虽然美国一些大学会计学专业的研究生教育并没有冠以“专业”的名号,但其培养目标、学制和课程设置等基本要素实质上都以会计行业的职业要求为主要导向,目标都是为会计实务界培养应用型的高级人才,如北卡罗来纳大学(University of North Carolina)的会计硕士项目(Master of Accounting,MAC)就是为了让学生能够达到美国注册会计师协会关于报考注册会计师(CPA)的知识要求而专门设立的。
申请会计学博士的截止日期为1月15日,而会计学专业硕士的截止日期是2月1日。申请者需要提交的材料有:个人陈述,本科GPA(3.0以上),两封推荐信,TOEFL和GMAT成绩。近年入学新生的TOEFL一般在620分以上,GMAT成绩在680分以上。国际学生申请该校的申请费为100美元。 网址:http://www.mccombs.utexas.edu/dept/accounting/
申请的截止日期为3月1日,本校会计学在读本科生申请继续深造可以放宽到3月31日。申请者需要提交完整的研究生院申请表,3.0以上的本科GPA,680分以上的GMAT成绩。国际学生需要提交TOEFL或IELTS成绩,如申请者提交新TOEFL(iBT)成绩,则需达到85分的最低要求,同时口语部分必须在22分以上,听力、阅读和写作必须达到21分以上。该校的申请费为50美元。 网址:http://marriottschool.byu.edu/soa/
申请该校的截止日期为12月15日。国际学生需要提交GMAT和TOEFL成绩(iBT成绩必须在75分以上,口语成绩必须在26分以上),录取新生的GMAT成绩一般高于700分。申请费为60美元。 网址:http://www.business.uiuc.edu/mst/index.html/
申请该校的截止日期为5月15日,需要提交的材料有:完整的申请表格,个人陈述,两封推荐信,TOEFL和GMAT成绩。学校非常重视申请者提交的个人陈述,希望通过该文件对申请人的优缺点、教育和职业背景、领导才能等综合素质有一个清晰的了解。国际申请者需交纳100美元的申请费用。 网址:http://www.nd.edu/~cba/011221/apply/index.shtml#msacct
申请者需要在本科阶段学习过金融会计学和宏微观经济学等基础课程,并拥有3.0以上的本科GPA。GMAT成绩最低要求为600分,国际申请者还需要提供较高的TOEFL分数,学校的要求是新TOEFL(iBT)总分在100以上,听、说、读、写四个分项的分数均不低于20。除此之外,两封推荐信、个人陈述和申请表格等常规材料也是必需的。申请该校的费用是85美元,截止日期为2月1日。 网址:http://www.marshall.usc.edu/web/LSOAMasters.cfm?doc_id=2213
申请者需要提交的材料有:完整的申请表格、3封推荐信、个人陈述和本科GPA。会计系接受GRE或GMAT成绩,对国际申请者要求提供TOEFL或IELTS成绩。旧TOEFL成绩的底限为550分,IELTS成绩最低为6.0。申请截止日期为1月15日。 7.University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
除此之外,会计学系要求申请者填写完整的申请表格,提交个人简历、本科GPA、3封推荐信、GMAT和TOEFL成绩。会计学系还将对每个申请者进行面试,以考察申请者的综合实力。 该校的申请截止日期为12月1日,申请费用为85美元。 网址:http://www.kenan-flagler.unc.edu/Programs/MAC/index.cfm
申请者需填写完整的申请表格,并提交个人简历、表明申请意愿的个人陈述、3封推荐信、GMAT和TOEFL成绩。会计学专业不接受GRE考试成绩。申请的截止日期为12月1日,申请费用为75美元。 网址:http://www.kelley.iu.edu/sagp/index.cfm?pageid=36
申请该校的截止日期是1月31日。在此日期之前,申请者需要提交完整的申请表格、两封推荐信、申请Essay、个人简历、GMAT和TOEFL成绩。会计学专业不接受GRE考试成绩。该校的申请费为45美元。 网址:http://www.bus.wisc.edu/accounting/degrees/
申请者需要提交完整的申请表格、两封推荐信、申请Essay、个人简历、GMAT和TOEFL成绩。会计学系不接受GRE考试成绩,对GMAT成绩的最低要求为650分,TOEFL为600分。申请的截止日期为12月29日,申请费为50美元。 网址:http://www.bus.msu.edu/acc/
对于立志于会计学研究的同学而言,申请博士学位是较好的选择。由于会计硕士容易找工作,2000年以后美国各院校毕业和在读的会计学博士人数显著减少,以至于一些学校出现了会计学师资力量“青黄不接”的现象,因此会计学博士的毕业起薪也日益提高,有的博士刚毕业就获得了15万美元的高薪教职。需要注意的是,会计专业对数学能力要求较一般商学院专业为高,特别在博士阶段,没有过硬的数学背景会学得非常辛苦,因此除了满足学校的一般申请要求以外,数学能力的提高也是不可忽视的环节。 如果准备在美国从事会计行业的实务性工作,那么拿到MAcc学位后可以选择参加CPA考试。在美国当会计不需要会计上岗证,但是和国内一样,有注册会计师(Certificate Public Account,CPA)制度。如果拿到美国的CPA,就能较为顺利地进入会计师事务所,即使去不了PWC、KPMG、DELOITTE、EY这“四大”事务所,进入一般的小所是很有把握的。如果有1~2年的事务所工作经验,以后再谋求更高的职业发展就相对容易得多了。 |
What do employees in e-Commerce fields do?
Students with backgrounds in e-Commerce typically work in Information Technology (IT) fields, often as the managers of IT infrastructures. They can also oversee the development and marketing of Internet web sites as project managers. Graduates of e-Commerce programs leave school prepared to fill positions in the technical staffs of corporations.
I do not have a background in Computer Science. Will an e-Commerce MBA be too technical for me?
While a Master’s in e-Commerce might require greater familiarity with IT concepts, most e-Commerce and e-Business programs are designed for traditional MBA students in addition to those with IT experience.
What degree options are available in this area?
Undergraduates can earn a Bachelor’s in e-Commerce or e-Business. Graduate students can earn a Master of Science in e-Commerce or an MBA with an e-Commerce or e-Business concentration.
What is the difference between a Master’s Degree in e-Commerce and an MBA with a concentration in e-Commerce?
The basic difference between these two options is that the master’s degree is highly specialized and will allow you to focus almost exclusively on computer science and business administration. In contrast, an MBA program will permit you to develop a general set of management skills as well as e-Commerce knowledge. There are advantages to each: a master’s program will enable you to delve into e-Commerce issues in greater depth; an MBA program will allow you to spend your first year developing a set of skills that can be transferred to other areas.
While both a master’s degree and an MBA concentration will prepare you to hold management positions within the field of e-Commerce, master’s programs are designed to help you become a leader in technology management and integration. In contrast, an MBA degree may also qualify you to hold management positions in other fields, should you become interested in a different career.
What subjects will I study?
As an e-Commerce student, you will study traditional business topics like finance, accounting and marketing, but your coursework will emphasize Information and Communication Technology (ICT). Your studies will probably include classes on e-management, electronic marketing marketing, online business strategies, MIS, web site development and IT applications. Students with IT backgrounds may take advanced computer science courses as well.
What careers do e-Commerce students pursue?
e-Commerce graduates can assume management roles in e-Business and e-Commerce fields, including operations, marketing, technical support and administration. Many become consultants for large corporations that want to incorporate internet business into their strategic plans. Companies may need you to improve B2B online transactions, vitalize internet product sales, or research e-Commerce competition.
What’s the overall career outlook for this field?
e-Commerce has suffered setbacks since the failure of many startup dot-coms, but the overall demand for business managers with information technology backgrounds should not decrease in the long run. The marketplace has changed dramatically with the introduction of companies like ebay and Amazon.com; most companies now recognize that they must develop and maintain e-Business programs in order to remain competitive. Consequently, the need for employers with e-Commerce skills remains. E-Commerce opens up entirely new business opportunities around the world; as old market practices incorporate new technologies, the field will increase in importance.
MBA细分专业的概述 What do accountants do? What's the overall career outlook for accountants? What do employees in e-Commerce fields do? |
3. Entrepreneurship
What do entrepreneurs do? Entrepreneurs have many options: they can be business owners and managers, venture capitalists, or small business consultants. In addition, some become intrapreneurs within established companies.
What is intrapreneurship?
Intrapreneurs work within corporations to develop new products, increase innovation, and build employee morale. Intrapreneurship appeals to some because it allows them to pursue creative business ideas with the support of a large company’s resources.
What degree options are available in this area?
Some schools offer undergraduate degrees in Entrepreneurship. In addition, graduate students can earn an MBA with an entrepreneurship concentration.
What subjects will I study?
Entrepreneurship MBAs are encouraged to draw upon their creative potential as they learn to build ventures. They are prepared to manage different stages of growth for business enterprises. Entrepreneurship programs allow you to focus on the specific business skills needed to bring an early stage company or small business to life. In addition to the core MBA course, you may take classes in entrepreneurial management, growth strategies, venture financing, cash flow management, and market research.
Many MBA programs offer students chances to work with small businesses; some also give top MBA students opportunities to launch their own ventures in the second year of study.
What skills will I need?
In addition to an overall comprehension of business administration, entrepreneurs should have:
Business savvy: You must understand business theories and practices to build a successful venture. Although some entrepreneurs have not attended graduate school, others believe that an MBA provides small business managers with invaluable administration skills.
Innovation and creativity: Creativity is imperative to entrepreneurs. How will your business stand out from its competition? Your venture may benefit from the introduction of new products, public relations techniques, or even new management practices. It will be up to you to determine what is best for your business.
People skills: As an entrepreneur, you will be the one who pitches products to potential investors or assists customers during sales. Understanding the needs of clients is crucial to your success, as is the ability to communicate with your partners and supporters.
The ability to multitask: Even if you start a business with other partners, you will probably have to tackle a range of tasks in different areas before the venture returns enough capital to hire additional employees. You may meet with potential clients in the morning, then design advertisements at the office during the evening.
The ability to take risks: Starting your own venture always entails uncertainty. You will put your own business reputation on the line, donating personal time and effort to build a customer base. Moreover, a new business requires sizeable financial investments – a start-up is not easy, but the opportunity to manage business operations is probably worth the risk.
What’s the overall career outlook for this field?
Entrepreneurs have always been the backbone of the American economy. Today’s corporate conglomerates were started by men and women with innovative – even outlandish – ideas who had the dedication to make their new ventures thrive. As an entrepreneur, you will be a leader in the business community, whether you take over the family business, purchase or start your own venture, or work within a larger company to revitalize its practices.
4. Finance
What do finance professionals do?
A tremendous range of opportunities for finance professionals can be found in the private, public and non-profit sectors. Most in the financial services industry are employed in such areas as commercial banking, corporate finance, financial planning, investment banking, money managing, insurance, and real estate. Also, almost every firm, government agency, and organization have financial managers who oversee the preparation of financial reports, direct investment activities, and implement cash management strategies.
Commercial Banking: A career in commercial banking offers opportunities in financial management, accountancy and auditing, securities, commodities, and financial services sales, as well as in financial and credit analysis.
Corporate Finance: Employees working in corporate finance find the money to run the business, grow the business, make acquisitions, plan for it''''s financial future and manage any cash on hand.
Financial Planning: Financial planners help individuals plan their financial futures.
Insurance: Jobs in insurance involve helping individuals and business manage risk to protect themselves from catastrophic losses and to anticipate potential risk problems. A variety of areas in insurance include work as an underwriter, a sales representative, an asset manager, or an actuary.
Investment Banking: Investment bankers help companies and governments issue securities, help investors purchase securities, manage financial assets, trade securities and provide financial advice.
Money Management: Money managers hold stocks and bonds for institutional clients.
Real Estate: In the real estate fields many are employed such areas as title insurance, construction, mortgage banking, property management, real estate appraisals, brokerage and leasing, and real estate development.
What degree options are available in finance?
Undergraduates can earn a bachelor1s degree in finance or take finance classes as part of a business degree. MBA students can choose concentrations in finance, and some schools offer master’s degrees in finance or PhD programs.
What's the difference between a master's in finance and an MBA with a finance concentration?
The basic difference between these two options is that a master’s in finance is a highly specialized degree that will allow you to focus almost exclusively on issues related to finance. In contrast, an MBA program will allow you to develop a general set of management skills in addition to specific finance knowledge. There are advantages to each: a master1s program will enable you to delve into finance issues in greater depth; an MBA program is will allow you to spend your first year developing a set of skills that can be transferred to other areas. While both a master1s degree and an MBA concentration will prepare you to hold management positions within the field of finance at some point in your career, an MBA degree may also qualify you to hold management positions in other fields, should you become interested in a different career.
What will I study?
Coursework generally covers statistics, economics, accounting policies and procedures, corporate budgeting, and financial analysis methods. Advanced courses in options pricing or bond valuation and knowledge of risk management are often covered. Courses in investments, taxes, estate planning, and risk management also are helpful.
What skills are necessary to work in the field of finance?
Financial professionals must be detail-oriented, highly motivated researchers, and knowledgeable about U.S. and international tax laws, economics and money markets. In addition to self-confidence, maturity, and the ability to work independently, candidates for financial industry positions need a broad range of skills including:
Excellent mathematical and computer skills
Excellent analytic and problem solving skills
Excellent oral and written communication skills
Strong interpersonal skills
What certification or licensing is necessary?
A college degree, and in most cases an MBA, is recommended for a career in the finance industry. A license is not required to work as a personal financial advisor, but advisors who sell stocks, bonds, mutual funds, insurance, or real estate, may need licenses to perform these additional services. Certification, although not required for financial analysts or personal financial advisors to practice, can enhance professional standing and is strongly recommended by many financial companies. Financial analysts may receive the title Chartered Financial Analyst (CFA) and personal financial advisors may obtain a Certified Financial Planner (CFP) or Chartered Financial Consultant (ChFC) designation. Both titles demonstrate to potential customers that a planner has extensive training and competency in the area of financial planning.
As an MBA graduate what career options will I have in finance?
The financial field offers many possibilities to MBAs, but the most sought after jobs are within corporate finance, investment banking, and securities firms. Finance MBAs often go into the corporate world as Financial Analysts or Investment Banking Associates. Other careers for MBAs are in asset management, equities research, and private client services. Many MBAs become management consultants with expertise in cash management, restructuring and workouts, emerging markets, or strategy. MBAs on the corporate side may aspire to careers that lead to corporate treasury, and ultimately the Chief Financial Officer (CFO) role in the corporation. Financial analysts may advance by becoming portfolio managers or financial managers, directing the investment policies of their companies or those of clients. Personal financial advisors who work in firms also may move into managerial positions, but most advisors advance by accumulating clients and managing more assets.
What's the overall career outlook in finance?
According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor statistics, increased investment by businesses and individuals is expected to result in faster-than-average employment growth of finance professionals through 2010. However, competition is expected to be keen for these highly lucrative positions. The majority of salaried advisors and analysts work for security and commodity brokers, exchanges, and investment services firms. Candidates with a master''''s degree should have the best job opportunities. Familiarity with computer financial software packages also should enhance a jobseeker''''s employment prospects.
What do general managers do? What is a typical career path for an General Management-MBA graduate? What do employees in human resource management do? Compensation managers: A position as a compensation manager may appeal to you if you enjoy accounting and finance. You will manage the company’s compensation plan, researching industry trends and regulations to be sure that your salaries remain competitive. What’s the overall career outlook for this field? |
Mr. Alsop is a Wall Street Journal news editor and senior writer
Doors Are Closed
For International M.B.A.s
By RON ALSOP
Special to WallStreetJournal.com
It's a moment Peter Veruki won't soon forget. Two M.B.A. students from China were conferring with him about their dead-end job search last spring when they suddenly broke down in tears.
The two women at Rice University's Jones Graduate School of Management had impressive entrance-exam scores and grades, plus one had earned a doctorate degree in biosciences and the other, a master's degree in economics. How was it, they asked Mr. Veruki, that they couldn't even manage to get on the interview schedules of campus recruiters? They were devastated to be treated so coldly by recruiters. Mr. Veruki, executive director of admissions and career planning at the Houston school, tried to explain the effects of the economic downturn and the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on recruiting, but he felt terrible that he couldn't offer the women any consolation.
Mr. Veruki told me about his distressing experience to help explain why the number of foreign students declined so much this year at the Jones School. About 21% of its first-year students are foreign, compared with nearly 30% of its second-year class. "I felt I had a moral obligation to reduce the number of international students," Mr. Veruki says, "with companies acting in such a nationalistic way by refusing to even look at talented foreign students for U.S. jobs."
As if tougher student visa policies and stiffer competition from U.S. applicants weren't enough, M.B.A. hopefuls from abroad also are finding it harder to win admission to American business schools because of the continued recruiting slump. Like Rice, some schools are purposely limiting the number of international students because they currently have such limited career opportunities in the U.S.
During the boom years of the 1990s, some schools clearly allowed the percentage of foreign students to spiral too high, sometimes exceeding that of U.S. students. Now, schools aren't meeting the needs of the many recruiters who will hire only domestic students. Nor are they satisfying foreign students who want to stay in the U.S. after graduation.
"It's just not fair or ethical bringing international students here thinking the streets are paved with gold," says Lisa McGurn, assistant dean for career management at the University of Rochester's Simon Graduate School of Business Administration. Rochester has slashed the percentage of foreign
students: The first-year class is 37% international, compared with 55% a few years ago.
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Schools also are well aware that they need to keep recruiters happy, now more than ever. "You make it difficult for companies to want to come back to campus if you have 40% or 50% international students and they are looking only for Americans," says Tom Kozicki, director of the M.B.A. career-resource center at the Marshall School of Business at the University of Southern California in Los Angeles. The Marshall School has become more rigorous in screening foreign applicants on their English skills and the quality of past work experience. Consequently, just 21% of Marshall's first-year students come from abroad, compared with 27% of the second-year class.
About 40% of the students at the University of Connecticut School of Business in Storrs are international, still a high number, but much less than the 56% a few years ago. Connecticut is trying to pick the most employable foreign applicants -- those with a strong business background rather than experience in government and not-for-profit organizations, as well as people with expertise in information-technology or engineering.
The University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign College of Business ended up with fewer international students in the first-year class -- 43%, compared with 47% in the second-year group and 50% in the graduating class of 2002 -- but that was mainly because of a bigger crop of highly qualified U.S. applicants. This year, says Mary Miller, associate dean of the M.B.A. program, "we may purposely have to reduce or be much more selective in the type of international students we admit."
The Job Market
Traditionally, international students have faced a more arduous job search than Americans. Some companies have long resisted hiring foreign graduates for full-time jobs in the U.S. because they didn't want to sponsor them for work visas or deal with potential language and cultural issues. But now more companies are shutting out foreign students because they have far fewer jobs to fill and can easily recruit talented Americans for them. Why hassle themselves with the paperwork to sponsor a foreign M.B.A. student for a work visa?
"We're seeing more emotional and patriotic feeling -- an `America first' mentality -- since Sept. 11," says Kathie Decker, director of M.B.A. career services, at the University of Iowa Tippie College of Business in Iowa City. Tippie would like to see the percentage of international students drop below 40%; currently, 42% of first-year students are foreign as are 46% of second-years.
Foreign M.B.A. students can more easily find summer internships in the U.S. The challenge is the full-time job. Some companies flatly refuse to interview international students. Others will consider them only for certain positions outside the U.S. For example, as long as there is an ample supply of U.S. talent, General Electric Co. is hiring international M.B.A.s to work for the company only in their home countries.
At Kraft Foods Inc., a spokeswoman says, "we make it a general policy not to sponsor foreign people for jobs in the U.S. unless they bring very specific skills we can't find among U.S. citizens."
The situation could become even more difficult for foreign students next school year when the number of work visas is expected to be drastically reduced. Currently, the federal government can issue as many as 195,000 H-1B visas annually to company-sponsored employees, but the maximum number will soon be cut to 65,000.
So these days, schools must be blunt when informing international applicants about the heavy odds against securing a job in America. I especially applaud the University of Rochester's promotional brochures for truth in advertising. In its list of recent M.B.A. recruiters, Rochester has begun italicizing the names of the few companies that have hired international students for jobs in the U.S. And the brochure goes on to warn that, "Such hiring practices vary with economic conditions."
Rosemaria Martinelli, director of M.B.A. admissions and financial aid at the Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania, also says she doesn't sugarcoat anything. "I'm dead honest with international applicants," she says. "I tell them that we are not the same country we were four or five years ago. If their goals are so fixed on the United States, they may need to reevaluate them."
But candor alone really isn't enough for M.B.A. programs that don't attract as many recruiters as Wharton and other top-ranked schools. Even with fair warning, many international students will look at a school's placement results and figure they'll be one of the fortunate few who get to stay in America.
At the very least, I would advise foreign students to think long and hard about the challenging job market before applying to business school. Can you afford to return to your home country and its pay scales after taking on big student loans to cover the $100,000 cost of an M.B.A. degree? If not, are you prepared for a long, stressful job search and chilly treatment from most recruiters?
It isn't easy. Just ask Marcelo Wolff. "Technology companies have been willing to talk with me, but I find that most consumer-product companies won't consider me for U.S. jobs," says Mr. Wolff, an Argentine M.B.A. student at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. He previously worked for Procter & Gamble Co. in Argentina but can't land a marketing job in the U.S. with P&G. He's hoping to parlay his internship last summer with FedEx Corp. into a full-time job, but hasn't received an offer yet. "It's so frustrating that companies aren't more open to me," he says. "You should hire the best candidate no matter what their country of origin."
On a more positive note, such academically prestigious schools as Stanford University and Dartmouth College are seeing a rebound in recruiting by consulting firms. And that may bode well for foreign students because, in the past, consulting firms and investment banks have been less concerned about M.B.A. graduates' nationalities than their skills and drive to succeed.
International students also can count on extra job-hunting support this year from most business schools. They're stepping up training in English, public speaking, American culture and even etiquette. Stanford's business school, for example, hired an international career adviser this school year to give foreign students more personal attention.
Career-services directors also are encouraging international students to be extremely flexible this year about industries, job functions and location. Indeed, companies should take note of foreign students if they operate in cold or remote locations, where American M.B.A. graduates often are loath to go.
A marketing-related job just about anywhere in America would make Miguel Gonzalez happy. The Peruvian student at the University of Rochester also isn't as picky about the job itself. He had his heart set on a brand- or product-management job, but after being rejected by two multinational consumer-product companies, he now would be satisfied as a market researcher or marketing analyst. "I don't exactly feel like a victim," says Mr. Gonzalez, who interned last summer for Hewlett-Packard Co. "But I never thought it would be as hard to find a good job as it is right now."
Purpose: 最后,我写这篇文章的主要目的是让大家了解一下MSU经济学系,同时希望抛砖引玉,在美国其他学校,其他系的中国学生,也能分享一下他们的学校、系里的情况,这样能够帮助到很多以后申请的师弟师妹少走很多弯路。 获取学校的信息: 同时在美国在读phd的中国学生,我知道大家都很忙,但是,因为问题都是类似的,答案也是差不多的,我建议大家可以写好一个模版来回答来自中国学生的问题,这个不会耽误你太多时间,而且能够帮助到很多很多人。 最后,其实大家在申请时询问完情况以后可以在对方的准许下把这个学校的基本情况贴到论坛上。 申请材料的核心:3C Commitment 这个应该是ps的重点中的重点,然而很多申请的人都忽略了这一点。坦白说,我也不知道怎么突出这一个。这一点是我一个成功申请到Stanford Educational Economics的同学跟他导师闲聊时他导师告诉他的,他当时写PS时强调了他义务到山村给贫困儿童教书的经历。我还有一个同学拿到U of M Finance, Wisconsin Madison Finance和NYU Stern Marketing的PhD Offer,就是强调了这一点,他从小到大就喜欢看金融的书,并且阐述了他的一些idea(当然,他们两个本身背景也很强。“PS不一定要很fancy,但是一定要顺,commitment一定要突出”,这是后面那个同学的原话)。其实申请PhD的人很多,而且大部分申请人只要被录取,都能够完成学业,因此,如果要把这么多qualified的学生区分的话,可能就是印象分,或者软条件,而这个是我所知道的软条件里面比较重要的,尤其对于一些名校来说。现在网络上很多PS模版坦白说,都写得不是特别好,至少这个要点没有抓到。希望大家能够对这个加以重视,同时在论坛上面多多讨论这方面,拓宽思路。还有很多PS写中国现在经济学怎么怎么样,我将来回去要做一番贡献等等(我也写过这样的PS),这个大可不必,因为教授不会对这个感兴趣,相反,他们更希望你留在美国搞学术。 Connection 怎么被强调都不过分,可惜中国学生最缺的就是这个,所以我也没打算细讲。如果是打算来美国念master再申phd的话,可以往这方面多多努力。基本原则就是,有对方认识的教授写的推荐信最好,有相关的背景最好,比如有个教授对中国股市感兴趣,你刚好知道里面的一些情况并且有兴趣,就可以跟他说说。Connection不仅是申请的一个重要因素,在将来的placement上面也是一个重要因素,后面会说道 AD and Offer and SPEAK test Qualify Exam/Preliminary Exam 我等下说,值得注意的是现在很多学校不仅要求你过QualifyExam/Preliminary Exam,还要求你过一个英语口语考试,过不了的话你就没有funding。要求过英语口语考试的学校有MSU、Minnesota、Virginia(都是公立)。Wisconsin Madison一年也招很多人,同时第一年末刷了很多人,但是我不知道它有没有这个口语考试。 这个口语考试在MSU叫做SPEAK test,对于很多英语口语不好的人是一个噩梦(至少对于我来说)。在MSU的经济学系,他们会要求你60分里面拿到50分才算过了这个考试,才能拿到TA,MSU Econ里面是没有RA和fellowship的,TA是你唯一的funding来源。而且,你的Teaching Experience对你将来找Faculty的工作也会有影响。我们系一个日本人,已经第5年了,论文都快做好了,可是因为没有过Speak Test,没有教学经验,找不到好的工作,打算再留一年。不过大家也不用太灰心,只要你肯找,其他系还是会有,我在其他系(Agricultural Econ, Geography, Social Science,天啊,我容易嘛我)做RA,算是维持到生活和学费,但是像上面说了,始终对将来找工作有影响,因此要尽快想办法过了。 btw:MSU Chemistry是一个很变态的program,如果你过不了SPEAK test你直接被踢出学校,不能继续读。(Chemistry很变态,可是chemistry engineering还比较nice,要注意区分开来) 每年的任务 第一年 每个学期4门课,数学+微观+宏观+计量,学年末考QualifyExam/Preliminary Exam 第二年选专业课,msu的专业最强是econometrics,econphd.net上面排到第九,这个方向上有三个distinguished professors: Wooldridge是搞empirical的,主要偏panel data,出过两本教材,国内应该很多人都听说过,他带的学生就业最好,今年他的一个学生毕业去了pittsburg; 还有Peter Schmidt,搞理论的,paper很多,非常productive;Vogelsong是搞理论Time Series的,刚从Cornell被挖过来,人很nice,但是还没有开始带学生。 第三年,终于修完课了,主要就是做paper和教书。要在第三年的4月中的Red Cedar Conference上面要完成一篇proposal并作presentation。 第四/第五年 Dissertation Placement/Job Market 我个人的感觉是,如果毕业做faculty,最重要的是大环境因素,像今年的大环境就有利于empirical econometrics的人,然后是你的导师是否有名(connection),然后是个人能力,特别是paper。这几年的大环境有利于计量经济学和宏观,微观的话在学术界比较难找工作。你毕业的学校的名气要比你本系的排名要重要,MSU supply chain项目是全美第二的(曾经拍过第一好像),但是它的phd出来找的工作跟第一的MIT,跟第三、四、五(Stanford,Berkley之类的学校,我不清楚 )的比都差远了。这个就是connection的问题,你的学校不出名,知道的人不多,你跟别人怎么比还是差了一截。还有个connection的问题是,你做了faculty以后要发paper,这个你不能单干,你要找人合写,这时候你就会发现,即使你跟一个名校的人去了同一个学校教书在同一个起点,名校出来的学生还是会比你爬得快,这不是偏见,而是因为他在名校出来,connection多,容易找人合写paper,publication自然就多。当然,你自己有能力的话还是能够超越别人的,我说的只是一般情况。 如果最后去industry,connection也很重要。MSU某个系里有一个中国人phd毕业以后去了某著名银行求职,发现原来那里的一个vice president刚好也是msu 同一个系phd毕业的中国人,结果面试时轻轻松松就过关了。这不是国内说的走后门,而是有connection,你能够知道很多信息,少花很多不必要的力气。不过industry的connection很灵活,不像学术界;基本上就是你在美国读书期间最好参加多点活动,认识多点人,了解多一点信息;参加多点实习有很大的实际意义。 MSU ECON的学生概况 暂时只想到那么多,我最希望的是见到有其他学校的在校学生也写一下他们的情况,这样,我的目的就达到了。 |
求助,关于商学院的一个重大疑惑
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今天去见了个朋友,哥伦比亚的商学院mba毕业的前辈,现在在国内自主创业,搞生物产业.我是理工科出身,马上要毕业了.本来准备去us学marketing的master,但通过和他的交流,我突然意识到一个很重大的问题,现在想征求征求各位同志们的意见.
一开始,当他听说我要本科毕业去美国学marketing时,他的反应令我很意外,他问我是不是准备去美国再上本科.经过深入探讨,我才发现,在他的意识中,美国的商学院就是mba和phd,很少有master.从他的经历来说,他所就读的哥伦比亚,1k多的学生中,有超过900都是mba,剩下的少数人也是phd,就没有其他专业,我们平时我说的hr\finance\marketing\accounting等都是mba下的方向.总而言之,在他的概念中,美国的商学院基本就等同于mba,而mba就是商学院应用方面的最高学历,研究方面则有phd.
此外,他还告诉我,如果要就读商学院,就应该毕业后有了工作经验直接去读mba,而且要是顶尖的几所.他说到,美国的商学院存在类似马太效应的情况,就是强者愈强,弱者愈弱,20名后的商学院毕业生,在美国的竞争力十分有限,知名企业甚至点名要求只招收7所大学商学院的毕业生,即所谓的g7 club.
所以,我现在遇到一个很头疼的问题,我想从我现在的ee转到商科.由于我的背景很普通,我就只有2个选择:1毕业就去美国一个中等大学读一所中等的商学院的master;2先工作,争取几年后直接就读好一些的mba.我到底该怎么选择呢?
挑战审核部--市场营销专业
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我是2月14号递的审核材料,主要是想沾沾这天的喜气,然后就开始了漫长的等待,结果在3月8号(也是个节日)我正在北京歌德上课,因为电话挑成静音没有接到,第2天跑去审核部询问,告知昨天是通知我今天审核,过期不候了,再等就是3月底了,因为北京的审核部要装修,我想也好,至少比马上就要审核强,结果这一等就是1个月,4月9号我实在坐不住了,就又去了一趟审核部(做什么车到审核部最快,最省钱我可门清了),,那位温和的姐姐告诉我,他把我材料忘记整理了,郁闷……当场给我约到5月5号,大家算算我究竟等了多长时间?!
接下来,我把我所有的39门课都列了出来,让我北大博士生的男朋友开始帮我用最精简的英语概述,所以我认为我的资料应该语句上面的错误比较少,当然我也要感谢我男友,为了我的审核,他几乎把我所有科目的课本都重新学了一遍(我们不是一个专业),然后再帮我总结出来,一般那个时候我都在看电视,吃西瓜…。。
28号那天,我和男朋友去了五台山,顺便说一句,那里的许愿真的很灵,至少在我周围的亲人身上都灵验了。1号从石家庄转车到京。又把所有的东西背了一遍,把论文准备了一下。
这里建议一下,尤其是学市场营销的,应该把4r 4p stp理论都掌握一下,这个是最精髓的,一旦你说了这几个理念,他们就会认为你是真的学过,我就是这样。还有那个产品投资理论,波士顿距阵法:瘦狗占略,奶牛~,明星~,野猫~ ,这个我一会发的资料都有。
几乎一个晚上都没有睡,5号早上我很早就起来了,7点15就到了审核部,但是已经有一个2审学模具男孩在那里了(也不知道他过了没有),我就又把那些资料拿出来看了看,发音再念了念,那天只有我和我的同学是学文科了,剩下的都是工业设计之类的。5号因为还是黄金周,所以审核关只有2组,而不是传说中的三组。那天面试的时间都很长,我是倒数第2个进去的,那个时候时间已经是10点45分了,当时在传说中的那个等待屋里,觉得莫名的伤感:我是放弃了一份月薪7800元的银行工作,来圆自己的出国的一个梦想。漫长的一年过去了,究竟这份放弃是否值得,也许今天的这个审核就会让我不再有实现梦想的机会,那么接下来我该何去何从?
我被叫到笔试的屋子里,过来了一个大眼睛的德国人,因为在之前的等待中,我没有见过这个外国人,所以我以为他是记笔录的,后来证实他才是主审官。他和我用英语说了一大堆,大概的意思就是让我把自己所学得都写出来。我的笔试题准备的很不专业,我想这和黄金周他们轮休有关系,是让你叙述三门课程,都是我准备过的,学市场营销的注意了,市场调查与预测这门课是必考的,传说中的西方经济学没有考到。我当时以为笔试题是要进去还要问,所以我没有把我背的都写上怕到时候说不上来,后来我后悔死了,所以大家还是尽量不要留一手了。就在我慢悠悠的写市场调查与预测的公式时,那个大眼睛无情的把我的卷子收走了,我还没写上取值范围呢………
进去了,除了一个大眼睛,还有一个黑头发的男子,他对我的名字十分感兴趣,重复了好几遍。后来就开始了自我介绍,这个环节我没有准备,基本上在歌德练的很多了,就简单说了几句,我们学校的名字特别长,我实在懒得说,结果他盯着我问了2遍。接下来就是我痛苦的经历,他竟然问我物流学,天知道那门课我们就学了4周,而且还是论文形势,我以为几句话就可以打发过去,没想到他似乎和我干上了,我就拼命用我有限的词汇开始组装,最后他似乎有些生气了,告诉我,我只想知道你能不能举个实例,而不要一直解释你的理论!!这个时候旁边的那个笔录告诉他时间到了,他似乎没有理会,不过他倒是把话题转到我的论文上了,刚说了没几句他又扯回物流学了,我当时真的是不想说话了,一种很无法沟通的感觉,觉得自己很无奈,他似乎看出来我的已经对这门课不熟悉了,就做了一个我至今都很费解的动作:把我的中文成绩单扔在了我的面前,让我自己选一门我准备好了的课程,我犹豫了一下,他还催我,于是我选了市场营销学,叙述概念和4p都被他打断,但是说到野猫理论和4r的时候,他有了兴趣,然后让我解释了一些市场细分,又问我的论文里面有没有用到这个,我说没有,他顿时变得非常激动,说怎么可能,然后给我讲了半天,我几乎没听懂,然后他又问有没有用到市场细分,我就说有,他似乎如释重负的感觉,然后说:那么我们换一门课程吧。这个时候,那个笔录的审核官,啪一下把笔扔到桌上,抱怨说:“你问的太多了,你不想吃饭“。然后转向我,和我说:你看我们多辛苦,你应该请我们喝咖啡。我说好,然后那个大眼睛就让我出来了。我的整个面试时间有45分钟。。。。。。。。。
经过4天的等待,中间有一个周末,我拿到了证书,这期间我一直认为自己肯定会被否决,还好,一切都不是噩梦。
祝愿大家都能和我一样幸运。
美国大学商学院市场营销系(Marketing)研究排名
送交者: amana 2004年11月17日09:58:10 于 [教育与学术]http://www.bbsland.com
CITATION FREQUENCY OF RESEARCH PUBLISHED IN THE TOP THREE MARKETING JOURNALS: RANKING THE IMPACT OF ARTICLES, SCHOLARS, AND INSTITUTIONS
Amanda E. Helm, University of Missouri, Columbia
David Hunt, University of Missouri, Columbia
Mark B. Houston, University of Missouri, Columbia
ABSTRACT We report a study that assesses the influence of marketing articles, scholars, and institutions. Influence was assessed by analyzing the average number of times per year each article, scholar, and institution was cited in subsequently published works. Rankings of the most influential scholars and institutions are provided and compared to the results of prior ranking studies.
Journal of Marketing (JM)
Journal of Marketing Research (JMR)
Journal of Consumer Research (JCR)
Table 1. Top 50 Institutions by Average Annual Citations of Total Faculty (Fractional Credit)
Average Annual Citations Total Faculty / (rank)a Ranking by number of publicationsb Institution Total Citations Top Three Marketing Journals Other Marketing Journals Outside Discipline Based on this samplea Spake & Harmon Bakir et al
University of Wisconsin-Madison 82.9 (1) 24.9 (1) 28.6 (1) 29.4 (1) 8 5 8
University of Minnesota 73.6 (2) 22.2 (2) 28.0 (2) 23.5 (5) 3 11 20
University of Pennsylvania 71.8 (3) 18.2 (5) 27.9 (3) 25.6 (3) 1 1 1
University of Southern California 69.5 (4) 18.8 (3) 26.4 (4) 24.3 (4) 2 12 12
Dartmouth College 63.7 (5) 18.3 (4) 24.9 (5) 20.5 (9) 17 39 ?
Northwestern University 61.0 (6) 15.2 (6) 23.9 (7) 21.9 (7) 4 7 7
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor 56.8 (7) 9.7 (13) 19.5 (10) 27.6 (2) 4 5 11
Arizona State University 53.8 (8) 9.6 (15) 21.9 (8) 22.3 (6) 10 12 16
Vanderbilt University 50.3 (9) 7.2 (25) 24.1 (6) 19.0 (11) 17 24 9
University of Texas, Austin 49.5 (10) 12.0 (10) 16.7 (12) 20.8 (8) 7 2 2
Duke University 46.3 (11) 12.9 (9) 20.6 (9) 12.8 (16) 10 24 18
Indiana University 45.1 (12) 13.9 (7) 15.0 (14) 16.1 (13) 10 15 21
Stanford University 41.2 (13) 10.3 (11) 10.4 (26) 20.5 (10) 28 12 13
University of Missouri, Columbia 39.9 (14) 7.1 (26) 18.5 (11) 13.6 (15) 36 34 ?
University of Florida 39.6 (15) 13.3 (8) 14.0 (15) 12.3 (21) 13 2 6
Texas Tech University 36.7 (16) 8.1 (20) 12.2 (20) 16.4 (12) 34 24 25
New York University 35.6 (17) 9.0 (17) 10.7 (25) 15.9 (14) 13 7 5
Emory University 35.0 (18) 8.4 (18) 13.4 (18) 13.2 (16) 25 ? ?
Columbia University 34.3 (19) 9.7 (14) 12.0 (22) 12.6 (17) 4 4 4
Harvard University 33.8 (20) 7.5 (23) 13.7 (16) 12.5 (19) 20 30 23
University of Illinois 32.8 (21) 7.2 (24) 18.3 (12) 7.3 (33) 28 27 24
University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa 32.0 (22) 6.0 (30) 13.5 (17) 12.5 (20) 38 46 ?
University of Chicago 30.6 (23) 8.3 (19) 11.7 (23) 10.6 (25) 17 7 3
University of Arizona 30.4 (24) 8.1 (21) 13.0 (19) 9.3 (28) 32 12 21
Texas A & M University 29.8 (25) 5.9 (31) 12.1 (21) 11.7 (23) 23 16 19
The Ohio State University 28.9 (26) 10.3 (12) 9.6 (29) 9.1 (30) 8 10 17
University of Washington 28.7 (27) 7.0 (26) 9.9 (28) 11.9 (22) 45 39 ?
University of California, Berkeley 28.2 (28) 9.3 (16) 10.1 (27) 8.8 (31) 34 19 10
Colorado State University 27.6 (29) 6.4 (29) 9.7 (29) 11.5 (24) 61 ? ?
Southern Methodist University 20.7 (30) 6.8 (28) 7.1 (45) 6.8 (35) 25 34 ?
University of Miami 20.8 (31) 3.5 (50) 8.9 (32) 8.1 (32) 28 34 ?
Massachusetts Institute of Technology 20.4 (32) 8.0 (22) 6.1 (51) 6.3 (38) 56 30 15
UIowa State University 20.4 (33) 2.5 (63) 7.9 (37) 10 (26) 25 ? ?
niversity of Virginia 18.9 (34) 5.4 (35) 10.8 (24) 2.8 (75) 45 46 ?
University of Cincinnati 18.8 (35) 5.4 (33) 7.5 (41) 5.9 (44) 15 19 ?
GTE Laboratories, Inc 18.6 (36) 3.6 (49) 8.2 (35) 6.8 (36) 93 ? ?
Florida State University 18.5 (37) 1.3 (89) 7.8 (38) 9.3 (27) 93 ? ?
University of Notre Dame 18.4 (38) 4.0 (44) 8.3 (33) 6.1 (39) 38 39 ?
University of Nebraska 18.3 (39) 5.3 (36) 9.1 (31) 3.9 (55) 62 ? ?
Illinois State University 18.2 (40) 1.3 (89) 7.7 (40) 9.1 (29) 131 ? ?
INSEAD 17.9 (41) 5.1 (37) 6.8 (47) 6.1 (40) 38 ? ?
University of South Carolina 17.0 (42) 3.6 (47) 7.4 (43) 6.0 (43) 21 ? ?
University of Colorado, Boulder 16.9 (43) 5.4 (34) 8.2 (33) 3.3 (63) 45 30 ?
University of Iowa 16.7 (44) 4.1 (42) 6.6 (48) 6.0 (42) 21 39 ?
University of California, Los Angeles 16.6 (45) 4.9 (38) 7.2 (44) 4.5 (49) 23 16 14
Virginia Polytechnic Institute 16.2 (46) 4.1 (43) 5.5 (55) 6.7 (37) 28 39 ?
University of Connecticut 16.1 (47) 4.8 (39) 7.0 (46) 4.3 (51) 52 ? ?
University of California, Irvine 16.0 (48) 5.5 (32) 6.5 (50) 3.9 (56) 38 46 ?
University of Oregon 15.6 (49) 4.6 (40) 7.7 (38) 3.2 (65) 62 ? ?
University of Portland 15.3 (50) 4.2 (41) 7.4 (42) 3.6 (58) 80 ? ?
aRanking out of 227 institutions with faculty members publishing in JM, JMR, & JCR from 1990 through 1996.
bSpake & Harmon ranking based on a count of publications in JCR, JM, JMR, & JR from 1990-1996. Bakir, et al. top-25 ranking based on a count of publications in JM, JMR, JCR, JR, JAMS, & Marketing Science from 1991-1998. Bold indicates top 10 or approximate top 10 for tied rankings for each category.
Table 2b. Top 50 Institutions (Five or more faculty) by Average Annual Citations Per Capita (Fractional Credit)b
Average Annual Citations Per Capita / (rank)a Ranking by number of publicationsc Institution Total CitationsTop Three Marketing Journals Other Marketing Journals Outside Discipline Based on this sampleaSpake & Harmon Bakir et al.
Vanderbilt University 8.39 (1) 1.2 (5) 4.0 (1) 3.2 (1) 1 8 8S
University of Wisconsin-Madison 8.29 (2) 2.5 (1) 2.9 (2) 2.9 (2) 2 4 8
Dartmouth College 6.37 (3) 1.8 (2) 2.5 (3) 2.0 (4) 8 25 14S
University of Missouri, Columbia 5.00 (4) 0.9 (12) 2.3 (4) 1.7 (6) 23 14 12S
Duke University 4.63 (5) 1.3 (4) 2.1 (5) 1.3 (9) 3 28 15
Stanford University 4.57 (6) 1.1 (6) 1.2 (14) 2.3 (3) 16 9 11
University of Minnesota 4.32 (7) 1.3 (3) 1.7 (6) 1.4 (8) 4 31 17
Texas Tech University 4.08 (8) 0.9 (10) 1.4 (9) 1.8 (5) 27 18 22
University of Pennsylvania 3.59 (9) 0.9 (9) 1.4 (8) 1.3 (10) 5 6 1
University of Southern California 3.31 (10) 0.9 (11) 1.3 (12) 1.2 (12) 8 29 12
Emory University 3.18 (11) 0.8 (17) 1.2 (13) 1.2 (11) 26 ? ?
University of California, Berkeley 3.13 (12) 1.0 (7) 1.1 (15) 1.0 (16) 27 1 1S
University of Arizona 3.04 (13) 0.8 (14) 1.3 (11) 0.9 (18) 30 12 18
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor 2.99 (14) 0.5 (29) 1.0 (17) 1.5 (7) 13 13 10
University of Florida 2.83 (15) 0.9 (8) 1.0 (18) 0.9 (22) 12 6 6
University of Illinois 2.73 (16) 0.6 (24) 1.5 (7) 0.6 (33) 34 23 21
Southern Methodist University 2.59 (17) 0.9 (13) 0.9 (24) 0.9 (24) 11 36 25
Arizona State University 2.56 (18) 0.5 (35) 1.0 (16) 1.1 (13) 32 38 13
University of Chicago 2.55 (19) 0.7 (19) 1.0 (20) 0.9 (21) 16 10 3
Colorado State University 2.51 (20) 0.6 (25) 0.9 (25) 1.0(14) 86 ? ?
Indiana University 2.37 (21) 0.7 (18) 0.8 (30) 0.9 (23) 22 43 19
University of Virginia 2.36 (22) 0.7 (20) 1.3 (10) 0.3 (61) 34 48 19S
University of California, Irvine 2.28 (23) 0.8 (16) 0.9 (22) 0.6 (40) 19 18 16S
University of Miami 2.28 (24) 0.4 (42) 1.0 (19) 0.9 (20) 14 24 4S
University of Texas, Austin 2.25 (25) 0.5 (28) 0.8 (31) 0.9 (17) 21 17 2
Columbia University 2.14 (26) 0.6 (23) 0.8 (32) 0.8 (28) 6 3 4
University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa 2.13 (27) 0.4 (39) 0.9 (23) 0.8 (26) 54 53 ?
University of Washington 2.05 (28) 0.5 (30) 0.7 (35) 0.9 (25) 56 52 ?
Massachusetts Institute of Technology 2.04 (29) 0.8 (15) 0.6 (41) 0.6 (31) 18 15 3S
Rutgers University, Camden 2.04 (30) 0.6 (22) 0.8 (29) 0.6 (35) 36 ? ?
University of Texas, Dallas 1.97 (31) 0.6 (27) 0.4 (63) 1.0 (15) 19 18 13S
University of Oregon 1.95 (32) 0.6 (26) 1.0 (21) 0.4 (52) 48 ? 23S
Northwestern University 1.90 (33) 0.5 (34) 0.8 (33) 0.7 (30) 40 22 7
Iowa State University 1.86 (34) 0.2 (62) 0.7 (34) 0.9 (19) 55 ? ?
The Ohio State University 1.81 (35) 0.6 (21) 0.6 (44) 0.6 (39) 7 15 14
New York University 1.78 (36) 0.5 (36) 0.5 (50) 0.8 (27) 33 25 5
Queen's University, Ontario 1.71 (37) 0.3 (51) 0.8 (27) 0.6 (38) 62 ? ?
University of Nebraska 1.66 (38) 0.5 (32) 0.8 (28) 0.4 (58) 67 ? ?
Harvard University 1.61 (39) 0.4 (44) 0.7 (37) 0.6 (36) 46 34 20
Texas A & M University 1.57 (40) 0.3 (50) 0.6 (38) 0.6 (32) 57 33 16
Cornell University 1.49 (41) 0.3 (49) 0.6 (39) 0.5 (41) 41 5 ?
University of Cincinnati 1.45 (42) 0.4 (37) 0.6 (46) 0.5 (48) 10 27 ?
University of Colorado, Denver 1.39 (43) 0.2 (61) 0.9 (26) 0.3 (67) 90 ? 25S
University of Iowa 1.39 (44) 0.3 (45) 0.6 (48) 0.5 (42) 23 37 17S
University of California, Los Angeles 1.38 (45) 0.4 (38) 0.6 (42) 0.4 (56) 29 11 2S
Wake Forest University 1.38 (46) 0.3 (48) 0.4 (64) 0.7 (29) 172 ? ?
INSEAD 1.38 (47) 0.4 (40) 0.5 (53) 0.5 (45) 53 ? ?
Case Western Reserve University 1.37 (48) 0.5 (33) 0.5 (52) 0.4 (57) 23 44 ?
Purdue University 1.32 (49) 0.3 (56) 0.6 (40) 0.4 (50) 48 ? 9S
Creighton 1.30 (50) 0.5 (31) 0.6 (43) 0.2 (77) 133 ? ?
aRanking out of 227 institutions with faculty members publishing in JM, JMR, & JCR from 1991 through 1995 bAverage Annual Citation Rate of each institution divided by number of current full-time faculty.
cSpake & Harmon ranking based on a count of publications in JCR, JM, JMR, & JR from 1990-1996. Bakir, et al. top-25 ranking of large departments (10+ faculty) based on a count of publications in JM, JMR, JCR, JR, JAMS, & Marketing Science from 1991-1998. sBakir et al. top-25 ranking of small departments (less than 10 marketing faculty)
fantastic work
thax
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