og13 新题107关于比较对象的问题

lohashilda

While it costs about the same to run nuclear plants as other types of power plants, it is the fixed costs that stem from building nuclear plants that makes it more expensive for them to generate electricity. A. While it costs about the same to run nuclear plants as other types of power plants, it is the fixed costs that stem from building nuclear plants that makes it more expensive for them to generate electricity. OG对于A选项并没有提出比较对象有错误。看了OG对D的解释，OG认为这里比较对象是正确的。OG把“nuclear plants ”和“ other types of power plants”同作为run的宾语。这么理解倒是真的可以，两个同性质的名词作比较。但是我纠结，这里the same X as Y, X和Y要平行的啊，怎么可以把X（to run nuclear plants）中的一部分（nuclear plants）拿出来和Y（ other types of power plants）做比较呢？国外论坛上对A的解释倒是指出了比较对象的问题——faulty comparison： cost of running compared with other types of power plants 。这里把“to run nuclear plants”写成“cost of runnng”，我的理解是他把“to run nuclear plants”的意思解释成“cost of runnng”了。但无论如何，有老外指出这里比较对象有问题了。OG又没有说，到底是因为没有错，还是漏掉没说？ B While the cost of running nuclear plants is about the same as for other types of power plants, the fixed costs that stem from building nuclear plants make the electricity they generate more expensive. correct。注意这里不是the same X as Y的结构，是X the same as Y。 C. Even though it costs about the same to run nuclear plants as for other types of power plants, it is the fixed costs that stem from building nuclear plants that makes the electricity they generate more expensive. OG又没有说这比较对象有问题。“ to run nuclear plants”和“ for other types of power plants”对等嘛？虽然这两个短语结合前面的意思都是在讲cost的意思，但前者要求的cost是动词，后者要求的cost是名词。这样还能算对等嘛？还能进行比较吗？ D. It costs about the same to run nuclear plants as for other types of power plants, whereas the electricity they generate is more expensive, stemming from the fixed costs of building nuclear plants. 照OG解释，for去掉就对了。这里就回到我对于A中比较对象的疑问了。 E. The cost of running nuclear plants is about the same as other types of power plants, but the electricity they generate is made more expensive because of the fixed costs stemming from building nuclear plants. 这个没啥问题，加上for就和正确答案B一样了。 对本题比较对象的平行非常纠结，虽然各错误选项可以从其他方面找出错误，但还是希望把比较对象弄明白。

xiangyu4255

这题倒是可以直接选择B，因为看到while想到maybe存在平行的对象，根据逻辑语义平行的是两种cost。
A中：as前后比较不对等。应该是 the same to run nuclear plants as to run other types; 其后面有啥：强调句嵌套着定语从句，it指代和形式主语互相混乱，them指代模糊。
B中：while从句与主句要尽量严格地平行的要求， 其中 the cost of running is about the same as (the cost) for other types of 是省略的比较，这里的the same as和than用法一样，变换着看更易理解
CDE，没有满足上述平行要求的，out。

lohashilda

谢谢你啊！

就是说A中确实存在平行问题咯，感觉OG的意思是to run后面的内容平行，即nuclear plants  和other types of power plants平行，那么你认为OG这里错了。还是要严格按照the same X as Y中X和Y要结构内容完全平行。

xiangyu4255

那同时总结一下:
....the same as....——前后成分要求平行对称，用法可以同than
the same....as....的用法也是较上面一种麻烦一些，但要明白：（1）当the same + n. + as the same是形容词，表“相同的”；而as则为准关系代词（既当连词也做关系代词的词类），翻译为“和”，也就是说，as可视为关系代词，在所引导的从句中做主语、宾语或be动词后的表语。可以把as看作是“as the + 前面的名词+关系代词（who,whom,which,that）。
来看几个例子吧，
做主语：
I have exactly the same car as was described in the magazine . as= as the car that
做宾语：
I have the same book as you do. as = as the book which
做be动词后的表语，be动词通常省略：
eg.I have the same dictionary as this one (is).as = as the dictionary that

（2）the same to do as to do——这就是这道题，就是介短平行介短，别多想就行了。
是否正确的应用了上面的结构，要慢慢自己套入句子，看看是否完整，是否平行。

xiangyu4255

刚发现还有呀，这道题要是只看代词的问题，A全是it（我管他是代词还是形式主语） B全是costs，绝对性优势，嘿嘿，说不选B我都哭死啦——嘻嘻，O(∩_∩)O~

lohashilda

恩，明白的，错误选项有更明显的错误点。但是平时错题嘛，多虐自己一点，考试时候就相对轻松些~~~刷OG的过程不求做对，但求发现所有知识点哈~~~

xiangyu4255

the same as的几种用法还是要掌握的，嘻嘻。。。。懂了就好亲。。。

xuyuanwai

我觉得 as 后的 to run 是不是省略了呢?

就是说  it costs about the same to run nuclear plants as (to run) other types of power plants

cherryser

怎么可以想当然认为og解释是错的？我觉得A错的点可能不是平行吧？只能说有比它更好的可以排除，我做的是og12里的32题，上面the same to x（someone）as to y（a person），这里后面的to不能省略是因为它连名词，而楼主这到题是to run，所以能省略？求解答

BCD中都有as for，但如楼主说的，CD无论是“ to run nuclear plants”和“ for other types of power plants”还是“ nuclear plants”和“ for other types of power plants”都不平行，所以错，E是the cost和types of power plants不平行，A中最后一个代词it不是形式主语，没有先行词，不能指代任何名词所以错误。

北辰小燕子

那同时总结一下:
....the same as....——前后成分要求平行对称，用法可以同than
the same....as....的用 ...
xiangyu4255 发表于 2013-3-29 07:21

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