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作者: soundsgood    时间: 2006-1-31 11:38     标题: 申请第三轮会影响录取机会么?

他们是不是对申请晚的有偏见?不断看到朋友们拿到了录取和面试,我的申请还没有邮寄出去。甚为胆寒!本来美国的商学院录取中国人就不是很多,竞争很激烈。对于申请第三轮,也就是国际学生的deadline,是不是意味着希望渺茫呢?郁闷中。有经验的朋友指教一下?
作者: chisirty    时间: 2006-1-31 13:03

现在还没寄出去?

有点悬啊


作者: wutongyu    时间: 2006-1-31 13:31

希望相对来说,肯定小多了。

不过还要看你的运气如何..


作者: highgmat    时间: 2006-1-31 17:48

第三轮,无论美国学生还是国际学生,学校录取的都不多的。第一第二轮的时候,学校更多的考虑是抓到合适的CLASS SIZE,到第三轮,学校的重点会有少许变化。也就是说,对于比较“传统的”申请人,比如我们眼中的IB, FINANCE等背景,最好在第一轮第二轮就递交,到第三轮机会会比较小。话说回来,到第三轮的时候,学校会注意CLASS DIVERSITY,包括各种背景的平衡,所以,对于特殊背景,在第三轮也许机会没想象的那么少。


作者: vagrant    时间: 2006-1-31 18:09

出了楼上说的原因外,我再补充一点:

第三轮申请的截至往往在2-3月,学校给出决定往往在3-5月,所以,对国际学生来讲,签证或者转身份都需要时间来准备。如果申请第三轮,可能准备这些事宜时间非常紧张。

而学校也明白这些事情,所以往往不怎么鼓励国际学生申请第三轮。


作者: soundsgood    时间: 2006-2-2 11:11

谢谢各位,又递交了2所,碰碰运气啦。


作者: ipod    时间: 2008-1-22 10:36

From Wharton's website:

Applying in Round 3?

It is the time of year when round 1 admits are busy weighing options among schools, round 2 applicants are nervously waiting for interview invites or other communications from various schools, and those who are considering applying in round 3 or waiting for the following year.

We are often asked whether there is merit in applying in round 3 versus waiting to apply for an earlier round in a subsequent year. Common wisdom suggests it is surely more difficult to gain admissions in round 3, and schools do encourage applicants to apply in earlier rounds. This does not mean we discourage round 3 applications (if that is when the application is ready), and certainly we admit people each year who apply in round 3.

The problem with round 3 is we have already made a number of admissions decisions and often the success of someone applying in round 3 may be somewhat dependent on what has already occured in admissions for round 1 and 2, so the admit rates are typically not as high as previous rounds. Each year those admits rates can vary to quite a degree however so it is very difficult to estimate the admit rates ahead of time. Listed are the advantages of applying in round 3 versus waiting for the next admissions cycle:

a. you may get admitted this year (if you don't apply, well then you made that decision for us).

b. if you are not admitted you can get feedback from the admissions committee (check different schools on this policy, but Wharton offers a feedback process) and the feedback can guide you in strengthening your application (or applying elsewhere if it is clear we are not an option, which in itself is an advantage over waiting another year to receive that insight.)

c. there is a learning curve associated with the application process, thus you will write stronger applications as a result of being a reapplicant based on your round 3 experience.

Clearly there are disadvantages in applying in round 3, cost (application fees) and time put forth, but the time put forth can certainly pay dividends in the long run.

Thus when debating whether to apply in round 3 or wait consider that there is certainly no stigma attached to those who ultimately reapply (their admit rates are usually higher than first time applicants) and there is an opportunity to be admitted in round 3!

01 Feb 2005 02:51 PM in Application Strategy | Permalink | Comments (18) | TrackBack

How many applications and when to apply? When considering applying to business school the above questions are some of the early strategic decisions to be made. So how many schools are applicants applying to? The trend seems to be to apply to less schools than perhaps five years ago, the average being close to four schools (feel free to add to the comments the number you are planning to apply). The decrease over the last few years can be attributed to more information about schools being available to applicants, which should allow you to make a more selective choice. We (schools) also expect you to know more about us when you apply, and applying to too many schools can be a huge time commitment! Applicants typically fall in to one of two categories when considering business school:

A. Those that need to go that year
B. Those that wish to go to certain schools

If you fall into category A then it might make sense to select schools that are a decent fit (based on your understanding of your competitiveness and the schools' selectiveness), a reach school (a school you think may be a bit of a stretch) and a safety school (a school you think you are well qualified to attend). This strategy helps ensure you go to the best business school for you the year you have determined you need to return to business school.

If you fall into category B then it makes sense to only apply to schools you know you would attend if admitted (i.e. a safety school is not necessary). If you are not admitted to one of your schools of choice, see if you can get feedback and then consider reapplying the following year. You might also revisit whether you are still in category B, or whether you now fall into category A.

When to Apply?
Many schools have 'rounds' (we have 3 rounds so we are an easy example to follow in this case). The myth is, you should apply early, whereas the reality is, do not apply late. Applying in round 1 or round 2 is fine, the competitiveness of each round is pretty consistent (schools can use wait lists to ensure this). Applying in round 3 (or the school's last round if a different number of rounds) is typically going to be more risky and the admit rates shrink dramatically (having said that, we do admit out of each round, so if that is when your application is ready, then its better to apply then than not apply at all or apply with a rushed application). This also applies to rolling admissions. Try to apply relatively early in the cycle, do not wait until the deadline to apply.

Caveat re: the above: some schools are explicit about advantages of applying early (i.e. they favour early, committed applicants). If you know that a school has this policy and it is your preferred school, you may very well want to apply in that early round, but you want to check each of the schools you are interested in to determine if they do favour an early application. Also consider the conditions that may be associated with applying in the early round. If you are not successful you will then have time to apply to other schools for the

round 2 deadlines.

For the most part however, the only advantage of applying early to schools is you will get your decisions from schools earlier which may help in your planning to transition to business school (or planning for more applications later in the application cycle).

It is also important to note there is a learning curve associated with developing a strong application, so while applicants will tend to prioritize their applications and use that order of priority as the order of submissions, it is seldom the case that the first application you submit is your best application. This further reinforces the notion of applying to your choice schools when you are truly ready to apply and know your application is as good as it can be.


作者: ruixing    时间: 2008-1-24 17:21

说得好!
作者: ruixing    时间: 2008-1-24 17:23

不过确实第一轮和第二轮的机会要大很多!第三轮的希望是很小的!也有人录取,不过很少!

斑竹这个说得很对啊:

第三轮,无论美国学生还是国际学生,学校录取的都不多的。第一第二轮的时候,学校更多的考虑是抓到合适的CLASS SIZE,到第三轮,学校的重点会有少许变化。也就是说,对于比较“传统的”申请人,比如我们眼中的IB, FINANCE等背景,最好在第一轮第二轮就递交,到第三轮机会会比较小。话说回来,到第三轮的时候,学校会注意CLASS DIVERSITY,包括各种背景的平衡,所以,对于特殊背景,在第三轮也许机会没想象的那么少。

第三轮申请的截至往往在2-3月,学校给出决定往往在3-5月,所以,对国际学生来讲,签证或者转身份都需要时间来准备。如果申请第三轮,可能准备这些事宜时间非常紧张。

而学校也明白这些事情,所以往往不怎么鼓励国际学生申请第三轮。

[此贴子已经被作者于2008-1-24 17:26:18编辑过]


作者: lonelyplanet    时间: 2008-1-25 06:47

many  thanks !!!
作者: 我在飞    时间: 2008-1-25 16:09

you will not know until you have tried
作者: trifling    时间: 2008-1-27 20:44

严重关注
作者: liuhongjuan    时间: 2008-1-28 09:28

如果要申请,就不要犹豫了

再犹豫,第三轮也过了


作者: Maggiewjys    时间: 2008-1-29 21:11

many    thanks !!!!!!!!!!
作者: ballparks    时间: 2008-1-30 19:49

thanks,ding !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
作者: celinapple    时间: 2008-3-11 12:03

现在还有可以第三轮申请的学校吗?
作者: chasecake    时间: 2008-3-11 14:18

现在这个时间可能就只能申请加拿大的学校了

美国的学校时间也快过了


作者: MrDJay    时间: 2008-3-11 16:59

如果第三轮没用,学校就不用设三轮了。

大家要考虑一个问题。就是第一第二轮最后都渐渐的作决定了。所以第三轮会有不少第一第二轮放弃offer的人让位出来。而第二轮,很多人还不肯放弃offer,因为他们心仪的学校还有机会。

所以这个都是说了啦。试了才知道。

我当初1个月准备GMAT,之前都被人说疯了呢,最后GMAT还是考的不错。

看个人。加油,所以第三轮的同志门。


作者: zixiawest    时间: 2008-3-11 21:52

QUOTE:
以下是引用MrDJay在2008-3-11 16:59:00的发言:

如果第三轮没用,学校就不用设三轮了。

大家要考虑一个问题。就是第一第二轮最后都渐渐的作决定了。所以第三轮会有不少第一第二轮放弃offer的人让位出来。而第二轮,很多人还不肯放弃offer,因为他们心仪的学校还有机会。

所以这个都是说了啦。试了才知道。

我当初1个月准备GMAT,之前都被人说疯了呢,最后GMAT还是考的不错。

看个人。加油,所以第三轮的同志门。

言之有理
作者: aprilhuangs    时间: 2008-3-13 07:10

ding !!!!!!
作者: tulipmontreals    时间: 2008-3-15 18:53

thanks !!
作者: ballparks    时间: 2008-3-16 19:15

many   thanks !!!!!!!!
作者: aprilhuangs    时间: 2008-3-19 20:03

ding !!!!!!!!!!
作者: thankcelester    时间: 2008-3-23 08:24

QUOTE:
以下是引用ipod在2008-1-22 10:36:00的发言:

From Wharton's website:

Applying in Round 3?
   

It is the time of year when round 1 admits are busy weighing options among schools, round 2 applicants are nervously waiting for interview invites or other communications from various schools, and those who are considering applying in round 3 or waiting for the following year.

We are often asked whether there is merit in applying in round 3 versus waiting to apply for an earlier round in a subsequent year. Common wisdom suggests it is surely more difficult to gain admissions in round 3, and schools do encourage applicants to apply in earlier rounds. This does not mean we discourage round 3 applications (if that is when the application is ready), and certainly we admit people each year who apply in round 3.

The problem with round 3 is we have already made a number of admissions decisions and often the success of someone applying in round 3 may be somewhat dependent on what has already occured in admissions for round 1 and 2, so the admit rates are typically not as high as previous rounds. Each year those admits rates can vary to quite a degree however so it is very difficult to estimate the admit rates ahead of time. Listed are the advantages of applying in round 3 versus waiting for the next admissions cycle:

a. you may get admitted this year (if you don't apply, well then you made that decision for us).

b. if you are not admitted you can get feedback from the admissions committee (check different schools on this policy, but Wharton offers a feedback process) and the feedback can guide you in strengthening your application (or applying elsewhere if it is clear we are not an option, which in itself is an advantage over waiting another year to receive that insight.)

c. there is a learning curve associated with the application process, thus you will write stronger applications as a result of being a reapplicant based on your round 3 experience.

Clearly there are disadvantages in applying in round 3, cost (application fees) and time put forth, but the time put forth can certainly pay dividends in the long run.

Thus when debating whether to apply in round 3 or wait consider that there is certainly no stigma attached to those who ultimately reapply (their admit rates are usually higher than first time applicants) and there is an opportunity to be admitted in round 3!

01 Feb 2005 02:51 PM in Application Strategy | Permalink | Comments (18) | TrackBack
 

How many applications and when to apply? When considering applying to business school the above questions are some of the early strategic decisions to be made. So how many schools are applicants applying to? The trend seems to be to apply to less schools than perhaps five years ago, the average being close to four schools (feel free to add to the comments the number you are planning to apply). The decrease over the last few years can be attributed to more information about schools being available to applicants, which should allow you to make a more selective choice. We (schools) also expect you to know more about us when you apply, and applying to too many schools can be a huge time commitment! Applicants typically fall in to one of two categories when considering business school:

A. Those that need to go that year
B. Those that wish to go to certain schools

If you fall into category A then it might make sense to select schools that are a decent fit (based on your understanding of your competitiveness and the schools' selectiveness), a reach school (a school you think may be a bit of a stretch) and a safety school (a school you think you are well qualified to attend). This strategy helps ensure you go to the best business school for you the year you have determined you need to return to business school.

If you fall into category B then it makes sense to only apply to schools you know you would attend if admitted (i.e. a safety school is not necessary). If you are not admitted to one of your schools of choice, see if you can get feedback and then consider reapplying the following year. You might also revisit whether you are still in category B, or whether you now fall into category A.

When to Apply?
Many schools have 'rounds' (we have 3 rounds so we are an easy example to follow in this case). The myth is, you should apply early, whereas the reality is, do not apply late. Applying in round 1 or round 2 is fine, the competitiveness of each round is pretty consistent (schools can use wait lists to ensure this). Applying in round 3 (or the school's last round if a different number of rounds) is typically going to be more risky and the admit rates shrink dramatically (having said that, we do admit out of each round, so if that is when your application is ready, then its better to apply then than not apply at all or apply with a rushed application). This also applies to rolling admissions. Try to apply relatively early in the cycle, do not wait until the deadline to apply.

Caveat re: the above: some schools are explicit about advantages of applying early (i.e. they favour early, committed applicants). If you know that a school has this policy and it is your preferred school, you may very well want to apply in that early round, but you want to check each of the schools you are interested in to determine if they do favour an early application. Also consider the conditions that may be associated with applying in the early round. If you are not successful you will then have time to apply to other schools for the

round 2 deadlines.

For the most part however, the only advantage of applying early to schools is you will get your decisions from schools earlier which may help in your planning to transition to business school (or planning for more applications later in the application cycle).

It is also important to note there is a learning curve associated with developing a strong application, so while applicants will tend to prioritize their applications and use that order of priority as the order of submissions, it is seldom the case that the first application you submit is your best application. This further reinforces the notion of applying to your choice schools when you are truly ready to apply and know your application is as good as it can be.

great insights!




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